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Hi guys,

Kudos to the admins. Great forum for computer information.

I am working as a design engineer using Solidworks/CAD (Mainly Solidworks) for parts development, stress analysis, fluid analysis, etc, and I have a Quadro K4000 at my workstation.

Problem now is, I plan to bring my work to home and my current home setup has a GTX780 graphics card for leisure gaming. I tried using it with Solidworks, but it lags at large assemblies.

Since I have read forums stating that I am unable to use NV GTX + NV Quadro due to driver incompatibilities, I was thinking of purchasing an ATI Firepro card and put it in my current home setup so that I can work on Solidworks when I am at home.

Now, question is, has anyone did that before successfully?

Hope this is not TL; DR Cheers! biggrin.gif
post #2 of 11
If you buy a firepro, how big are your assemblies?

The W7000 is a good value if you order with your company due to the 50% off promotion:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195118



http://develop3d.com/hardware/graphics-cards-for-cad-ptc-creo-2.0-solidworks-2013

also see http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/workstation-graphics-2013/55-Solidworks-2013-OpenGL-Graphics-Composite,3331.html

and http://www.tomshardware.de/Workstation-Grafik-2013-Benchmarks,testberichte-241269-9.html


Firepro W9000= HD7970
Firepro W8000=HD7950 but with smaller memory bus (kind of liek HD7870XT)
Firepro W7000=HD7870
Firepro W5000=HD7870/7850 with 768 shaders & 75W tdp

Do note that Quadro and Firepro coolers are loud and garbage in general, so don't expect to game on them

TITAN and GTX 780 are weak for Solidworks:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-780-performance-review,3516-24.html
Edited by AlphaC - 6/2/13 at 8:36pm
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post #3 of 11
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Hi Alpha C,

Wow, I must applaud you for the detailed explanation.

I believe the W7000 should be sufficient for my work. My large assembies are in the GBs. Thanks for the heads up on the 50% discount.

However, will the W7000 work in conjunction with the GTX780 if I put them in a same machine? Possibly GTX780 as the output to monitor and W7000 is the graphic card only for Solidoworks/CAD?

Even the guys at the computer shop at my area is unsure of if this is possible.

Thanks.
post #4 of 11
In my humble opinion you should either have 2 separate machines , use Radeon instead of Firepro but with the performance hit that's not nearly as bad, or be prepared for headache.

People have used Nvidia cards for PhysX (or CUDA rendering) before along with Radeon.

I have no clue whether a Nvidia GTX 780 card would work in conjunction with a Firepro. I don't think anyone has tried that, especially since gtx 780 about a month old tongue.gif

Firepro W7000 is able to put out roughly as many FPS as a HD7850 so if you're on 1080p 60Hz (probably not since you bought a GTX 780 lol) then it's adequate if you swap the cooler. Just don't expect value for money or great AA

see also http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/workstation-graphics-card-gaming,3425-13.html
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Hi A lphaC,

Thanks for the reply. I was thinking of saving myself the hassle to purchase two separate computers since my home office do not have space to house both, and the cost of another machine is a nuisance too. And I think firepro or quadro laptops are expensive, outdate fairly quickly, and may not have the processing power for what I am working on.

I am on a dual screen 27" 2560 x 1400, one I bought from my company at a discounted price, currently connected HDMI and Displayport.

I tried reading other forums and really, doesn't anyone have this problem too?

If no, lets just KIV and hope the ATI or NV will notice. Cheers!
post #6 of 11
i dont think you would have any issues long as the screen your going to use for sold works is hooked up to the amd card... Ive ran a couple different nvidia and amd cards in the same machine without any issues. Granted none of them were workstation cards but i dont think that would make any diff
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Hi burksdb,

Thanks for the reply. Pardon my weak understanding. Do you mean that if I have two cards, I will need to unhook and re-hook my monitor connections to the said card for specific purpose? i.e. Firepro for Solidworks and NV for gaming?

Will the Firepro work for Solidworks if the output is via GTX?

Thanks and cheers!
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Hi burksdb,

Thanks for the reply. Pardon my weak understanding. Do you mean that if I have two cards, I will need to unhook and re-hook my monitor connections to the said card for specific purpose? i.e. Firepro for Solidworks and NV for gaming?

Will the Firepro work for Solidworks if the output is via GTX?

Thanks and cheers!

i'm dont think the firepro card will forward the output to the GTX, it may though if the program is setup to just use the firepro for rendering, but i'm not sure how the nvidia card and amd will cooperate on this particular setup.

Ideally the firepro gpu would render the images and the nvidia would just be for the output.

wont really know until you install the card.

No reason why it wont work, but i'm unsure if your going to have to adjust your monitor config or not
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What I think happens (not that I have ever tried) is when you have NON bridged GPU's, the GPU will simply output to whatever display is connected to it, so you could have one gaming and one work display without ever missing with cables, but I am not at all sure that this is the case.
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Thanks guys for the explanations.

I believe GTX is able to render the images perfectly, although weak in the calculations department due to driver limitations. My initial thought was that the Firepro card would act as sort of a Cuda/Tesla equivalent processor which performs the calculations required for 3d modelling passively for that particular software, while graphics output is to the GTX.

Still no concrete answers at of now. Considering the Firepro W8000 costs USD1.5-2k, I feel its best not to take the risk until there is a confirmed answer.

However, if anyone have tried it, do let me know if it is feasible.

Cheers!
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