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Yea it would be a lot to ask of a news source like this to provide more specifics about the theories involved, or what math was used to compare predictions to reality, and that sort of stuff. But I can't seem to find one that does.
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Seems like I saw this a couple of years ago. These spots in the background radiation map were "bruises" or some scaring from coming into contact with something else; the multiverse perhaps?
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It is hard for the average human being to gasp at the possibility of a concept called 'endless' and 'infinite'...

No human being knows what "infinite" is as words exist for the sole purpose of trying to quantify immeasurable quantities. Its utterly redundant.
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I always thought we're in a single universe, just a bunch of stars flying away from each other through an infinite emptiness. Now they're saying there's more than one? So where's the boundaries and borders?

Maybe we're much smaller than we're capable of realizing...
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I always thought we're in a single universe, just a bunch of stars flying away from each other through an infinite emptiness. Now they're saying there's more than one? So where's the boundaries and borders?

Maybe we're much smaller than we're capable of realizing...

Most likely in dimensions above those of which we are capable of detecting.
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i'm ok with this.....call me when we find the Underverse smile.gif
    
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It's not surprising at all. There being only one universe would be surprising. As far small or big as we can see we find holistic levels with infinite number of parts. Thinking that the farthest holistic levels are where the levels stop is stupid, even if there's no evidence of farther levels. So there's probably an infinite number of universes, and these universes are probably parts of something even bigger, which are also infinite.
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Interesting, but sadly pure guesswork and sensationalistic pseudo science.

You might have had a point if you said this thirty years ago, but hypotheses and mathematical proofs regarding the existence of a multiverse have been around for quite some time, have advanced well beyond "pure guesswork", and are hardly pseudoscience.

Dailymail is far from the best source from this, but there are plenty of better ones.
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This. Which seems to be more and more common recently.

The only thing that seems to be more common are people using the shoddiest sources they can find, and keen-jerk bias against such sources, or ideas that don't fit the (usually outdated or completely erroneous) preconceptions many people have developed.

The idea of a multiverse is well within the realm of scientific hypothesis, and depending how things go, could easily make it into accepted theory in the near future.
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Yea it would be a lot to ask of a news source like this to provide more specifics about the theories involved, or what math was used to compare predictions to reality, and that sort of stuff. But I can't seem to find one that does.

Some sources that may be of interest:

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/pdf/276176main_ApJLetters_20Oct2008.pdf

http://arxiv.org/abs/1303.5076

http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.2732v3/astro-ph

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19626311.400

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1108/110802-first-test-of-multiverse

https://www.simonsfoundation.org/features/science-news/is-nature-unnatural/

http://space.mit.edu/home/tegmark/crazy.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Mersini-Houghton
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So where's the boundaries and borders?

Who said there needed to be any such thing?
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I wonder what the "gold" is...

Well, the 'gold' or 'question' would be something along the lines of "What happens when you start a universe with a set of rules and then let it play out?", the rules in this case being the rules of physics. The simulate a bunch of universes all with different rules and then just watch as they play out in real time (or maybe far faster, we wouldn't notice the difference, our entire universe could take just a minute from existence to demise).
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Interesting, but sadly pure guesswork and sensationalistic pseudo science.

What are you basing your statement on?

These are published scientists and this is theoretical physicist... the cutting edge of knowledge. They try to understand how the universe works based on observation and then predict other features of the universe. Then the experimental physisics tests those predictions.
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Where's Riddick when we need him?

That being said -- Calling a theoretical physics guesswork? Really now? Why not just walk up to Hawking and tell him he's guessing?
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