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considering that the universe is shaped like a acretian disk around a black hole to some degree, the idea of other universe existing outside of our own isn't even remotely challenging, it should be expected. I have long thought that we exist in a megaverse of universe, and I don't think that is even a remotely insane proposition. Also it could explain black holes. siphoning energy from our universe to another similar universe.
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@Th4natos, you've inspired me to be honest. I've just heard the term "multiple universes" so many times, I just want to go ahead and believe it already. And from what the experts say, "the jury is still out," to bring back my earlier metaphor, so I'm gonna stay where I'm at 'till I hear otherwise.

My only qualifications for debate here are an understanding of the scientific process, and a faith that those in the theoretical physics field adhere to it more thoroughly than people in many other disciplines.

I posted it cuz I thought it was cool.
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th4natos you are hilarious..ill keep on being amused by this thread ten fold...will have something to read tomorrow at work when this gets blown out of proportion...
specially option three...do you have past experience or are you qualified to mine? (no really do you that would be awesome looking for new work getting tired of oil not hazardous enough)

So now time to back to the books and read books that help most people who are not in the Theoretical Department of Major Institutions, nor that of any Physics or Quantum Related Fields..Why because all I read in this thread is that of words most people picked up from the article and twisted them into a sentence to make them feel better than the next and so called "smarter" or capable of retaining knowledge for longer periods of time and recall that information when need be....

You now have permission to carry on

(this is an obvious act of 2012 trolling i believe everybody now calls it, it used to be called annoying SOB but hey current words have ever changing definitions)

TO OP:
Source whatever....its something that most people dont look past they dont even dive into looking for other sources when they see a bad source...
Thanks for linking will carry on reading and enjoying the topics people are bringing up
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this is a daily mail article

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The reason we cannot fathom the infinite is because we only know facts, things we can measure. You can keep on measuring infinite as much as you want, and it will never end. There is nothing we have here on earth that is both infinite and measurable. Even now trying to explain my thoughts on the matter, my mind shifts to 'Whoa', and my explanation is finite.
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I posted it cuz I thought it was cool.

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Edited by Ferrari8608 - 6/3/13 at 8:01pm
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The multiverse is probably the most elegant and accurate explanations of reality that there is, but it leaves some highly troubling philosophical problems. For example, if the theory is true, then our lives really have no purpose. We exist because of a random cosmic fluctuation. No one's life has any meaning because every other decision in existence that you could have made has already been done. You may think you have free will, but your version of consciousness is predetermined to fill a slot since every other combination of decisions has already been done. It still leaves gaping questions like why is there something instead of nothing. This is pure conjecture, but maybe this explained by reality trying to answer to itself the very question we ask. Universes always moves from something(the big bang) into nothing(cold death of the universe). We're the result of the unstoppable force versus the immovable object.
Edited by serp777 - 6/3/13 at 10:56pm
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I only read the first few posts but take it easy guys, this article is clearly not proving anything nor does it hope to persuade any of you of anything. And I don't think anyone here should be arguing anything about any potential web of universes or higher/lower dimensions as we're not qualified and will only be regurgitating what the media has taught us to believe we "know." I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence but theoretical physics isn't really something that most people can just have a good conversation about; it turns into unreasonable discussions that get just as bad as "does God exist?"
Sweet article though, cool stuff to think about.
Also: if you do happen to be a theoretical physicist or are qualified to talk about this please, enlighten us.thumb.gif
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I only read the first few posts but take it easy guys, this article is clearly not proving anything nor does it hope to persuade any of you of anything. And I don't think anyone here should be arguing anything about any potential web of universes or higher/lower dimensions as we're not qualified and will only be regurgitating what the media has taught us to believe we "know." I don't mean to insult anyone's intelligence but theoretical physics isn't really something that most people can just have a good conversation about; it turns into unreasonable discussions that get just as bad as "does God exist?"
Sweet article though, cool stuff to think about.
Also: if you do happen to be a theoretical physicist or are qualified to talk about this please, enlighten us.thumb.gif

You don't need to be a theoretical physicist to talk about the multiverse for the same reason that you don't need to be a gourmet chef to talk about the quality of food. The explanation of this article is reasonably easy for anyone to understand; universes outside our own may have influenced various aspects of the CMB, particularly the large blue gap which is not explainable by an isolated big bang within the known laws of physics. The article provides additional inferential evidence to what quantum mechanics already has provided. The multiverse is the best candidate for a theory of everything, and this analysis of the CMB merely confirms it.
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Interesting, but sadly pure guesswork and sensationalistic pseudo science.

I agree, humans can hardly see planets out of our own galaxy. We know absolutely nothing about how the universe started (multiple theory's) let alone if there are other universes there are....it's all guesswork.
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You don't need to be a theoretical physicist to talk about the multiverse for the same reason that you don't need to be a gourmet chef to talk about the quality of food. The explanation of this article is reasonably easy for anyone to understand; universes outside our own may have influenced various aspects of the CMB, particularly the large blue gap which is not explainable by an isolated big bang within the known laws of physics. The article provides additional inferential evidence to what quantum mechanics already has provided. The multiverse is the best candidate for a theory of everything, and this analysis of the CMB merely confirms it.

But you are making it sound like its a hard fact.
Its not.
They think this makes sense. They assume it makes sense based on their findings.
This can also be wrong.
There can be another evidence they missed, or some other theory in the making, or they thought it makes sense and so their assumptions of their observations where leading to it instead of the other way around.

They have still a very long way to go in order make this theory more substantial. In the articles liked earlier, there are several holes in their theory which they still do not understand, but filled with things they assume are right, and still need to prove them.
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