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Wrong, we know the missile exists because the details exist and we see them. Bad analogy there.

What makes you think you'll see a missile when it's headed towards you..?
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Good luck NASA getting to planets that are lightyears away.

In my opinion they need to revamp the telescope to the point where you can see the surface of a planet with one. I'm pretty sure that they aleady have telescopes where you can see the surface details of the moon.

Yeah well, NASA doesn't need your opinion.. Believe me..
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Wrong, we know the missile exists because the details exist and we see them. Bad analogy there.

Good luck NASA getting to planets that are lightyears away.

In my opinion they need to revamp the telescope to the point where you can see the surface of a planet with one. I'm pretty sure that they aleady have telescopes where you can see the surface details of the moon.

That way we can tell if there is something inhabiting the planet or not.

There is light being bounced off of these planets and hitting earth as we speak.

With advancement of optics we would be able to see th surface of the planets and see if there is "intelligent" life there.

If I were to go to school it would be for optics and designing telescopes or a new form of optics that does not revolve around glass to see far away planets but to be honest I'm more of a creative person, math & science bore me to death I'd rather let others figure out the boring stuff (which they find to be fun, but they also probably find learning how to paint boring or too hard as each person has their own love).

You should quit while you're ahead... actually, while you're less behind. You're just digging yourself into a hole with your ignorance on scientific matters. Seriously. Just stop. Now.
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Actually, we can see light coming from extrasolar planets, so we know they're planets and not black holes. That's beside the fact that we can calculate their mass and we know the minimum mass required to form a black hole.

http://www.keckobservatory.org/news/spectrum_of_young_extrasolar_planet_yields_surprising_results1/
    
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The fidelity of our detection abilities is really a nitpicky thing to bring up if you ask me. It would be like if a blind person decided that this forum didn't exist because they didn't trust their text-to-voice program.

One of the first things an astronomer does when they find something controversial is run tests to make sure their equipment isn't faulty.
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Actually, we can see light coming from extrasolar planets, so we know they're planets and not black holes. That's beside the fact that we can calculate their mass and we know the minimum mass required to form a black hole.

http://www.keckobservatory.org/news/spectrum_of_young_extrasolar_planet_yields_surprising_results1/

We have theories of the minimum mass based on what we know, and if I recall correctly, there have been a few recent black holes discovered that have lower mass than what scientists previously thought was possible. So, we don't know for sure, we have good theories, but they're still just that, theories. Anyways, it was just an example that most likely isn't true, but it is still theoretically possible.
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The fidelity of our detection abilities is really a nitpicky thing to bring up if you ask me. It would be like if a blind person decided that this forum didn't exist because they didn't trust their text-to-voice program.

One of the first things an astronomer does when they find something controversial is run tests to make sure their equipment isn't faulty.

the contentions always begin at the edge of the measurement noise, and grow from that point forward.
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An infinite multiverse is a fun idea to me. To think that any and all human creativity exists somewhere in the multiverse is awesome. In an infinite multiverse Star Wars exists, generic star wars, extended universe star wars, original trilogy star wars, prequel starwars, solo shot first star wars, solo shot 2nd star wars, fan fiction star wars, infinite permutations of star wars, each with it's own fully real universe.

And that's just one story. To make you groan sparky vampires ala twilight exists in infinite permutations in an infinite multiverse.

In infinite universes Zeus is real, and in infinite Odin. In infinite universes magic is real, in infinite it's not. In infinite universes there are infinite variations of reality.

Radically different universes. And with infinite comes small changes. Universes where 1 molecule is in a different location. And infinite variations of that universe where 1 molecule is in a slightly different location in each one. Then infinite universes where 2 molecules are in slightly different locations. Then infinite universes where that molecule moves slightly differently at a different time through infinite time.

There would be infinite universes that are indistinguishable from ours. An infinite number of universes where I just scratched myself a nanosecond later then in this universe.
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Interesting, but sadly pure guesswork and sensationalistic pseudo science.

The only way to really assess this is to look at (or be involved in) the actual research, which is becoming less and less possible with the advancement of our understanding of the universe. The vast majority of us simply can no longer access and/or understand the work being done to be able to judge it.
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I agree, humans can hardly see planets out of our own galaxy. We know absolutely nothing about how the universe started (multiple theory's) let alone if there are other universes there are....it's all guesswork.

I love how hard you try to convince people that we have made no progress in our understanding of the universe in the past couple of centuries.

I'd even say you're becoming the troll of threads like this one.

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Actually, we can see light coming from extrasolar planets, so we know they're planets and not black holes. That's beside the fact that we can calculate their mass and we know the minimum mass required to form a black hole.

http://www.keckobservatory.org/news/spectrum_of_young_extrasolar_planet_yields_surprising_results1/

Dude, it's all guesswork.
Edited by Faraz - 6/4/13 at 4:46pm
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I love how hard you try to convince people that we have made no progress in our understanding of the universe in the past couple of centuries.

I'd even say you're becoming the troll of threads like this one.
Dude, it's all guesswork.

Humans have made progress but we may never know the actual truth of how it started as we can not go back in time.
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You should quit while you're ahead... actually, while you're less behind. You're just digging yourself into a hole with your ignorance on scientific matters. Seriously. Just stop. Now.

Science is just trying to figure out what nature already knows.

I could care less about your opinion or anyone else's opinion of me or my thoughts on here.

Sure we have made progress like I said before but is it really exciting knowing that someones theory is either correct (1) or not correct (0) when nature already knows and has the answer and does the answer change anything? To me it does not.
Edited by Mwarren - 6/4/13 at 4:59pm
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