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Really. Every site I see is either 60hz or it's not listed. And from what I've been reading on the threads, the one's that overclock usually get 96hz. Doesn't seem like 100% success on 120hz. It's not necesarily a 120hz monitor. It just has the potential to be.

Why don't you go look at the actual official sellers of the monitors on Ebay and you will notice that almost all of them list "120hz overclockable" in their ad. Almost every report recently on the owners thread has been 120hz and those who hit 96 just needed to switch DVI-D cables and they got 120hz.
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^ THIS.

I had my eye on those for the while, but never ordered, because nobody, and I mean it: NOBODY sells it with a guaranteed 120 Hz. And there's a reason why nobody wants to sell those chinese overclockable IPS panels as "guaranteed 120 Hz panels". I have mailed Overlord about this about half a year ago and I even offered an additional 100$ for guaranteed 120 Hz panel. Guess what? They didn't want my money.

Well, 120 Hz on those QNIXes and Catleaps are as guaranteed as an average Haswell hitting 4,5 GHz. Sure, most of them will do and some will do even 4,8, but if you hit a wall at 4,2 GHz nobody will give you your money back, MapRef41N93W.

Exactly the same counts for those 60 Hz (we've been over that already, they're 60 Hz) IPS panels. Everybody is bragging they're 120 Hz, but if I hit a wall at 90-100 Hz, nobody will give me my money back. Well, I will wait for the one that has a 120 Hz out of the box then and meanwhile I will just use the XL2420T.

First of all, they are Korean not Chinese. Secondly it sounds like to me you are one of those way over cautious people. I bet you don't buy an item because you saw someone say that got one DOA on a Newegg review right? Simply because a very small fraction of them don't hit 120hz (again usually because they just need to use a different cable) doesn't mean the monitor isn't 120hz.

But you go ahead and keep missing out.
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Why don't you go look at the actual official sellers of the monitors on Ebay and you will notice that almost all of them list "120hz overclockable" in their ad. Almost every report recently on the owners thread has been 120hz and those who hit 96 just needed to switch DVI-D cables and they got 120hz.
First of all, they are Korean not Chinese. Secondly it sounds like to me you are one of those way over cautious people. I bet you don't buy an item because you saw someone say that got one DOA on a Newegg review right? Simply because a very small fraction of them don't hit 120hz (again usually because they just need to use a different cable) doesn't mean the monitor isn't 120hz.

But you go ahead and keep missing out.

If all it needed was a different dvi cable, then why haven't all the people on the Official OCN thread tried that? Is it some sort of secret that nobody knows about? I went on eBay and the only one I saw with "120hz overclockable" was dreamseller.


I can't wait for the day of 4k OLED displays.
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So is this running dp1.3 or hdmi 2.0? How can it hit 120hz?
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So is this running dp1.3 or hdmi 2.0? How can it hit 120hz?

By overclocking the DVI link. You can overclock the "legacy" links by doing stuff with the reference clock gen used by these. You can actually overclock the HDMI also (as it's just a single link DVI in essence) but these displays usually have only a dual link DVI input.
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If all it needed was a different dvi cable, then why haven't all the people on the Official OCN thread tried that? Is it some sort of secret that nobody knows about? I went on eBay and the only one I saw with "120hz overclockable" was dreamseller.


I can't wait for the day of 4k OLED displays.

Almost all of them do. Originally it started with the Catleap that had a paritcular pcb that allowed it to be overclockable. From there, the QNIX based on the AMOLED displays (vs the Catleap's IPS) came into play where the overwhelming majority will overclock. There have been variations like the X-Star (slightly cheaper variant of the qnix) and the overlord (a US based ish version of the Catleap). I've had a Catleap and 3 separate QNIX displays all of which have hit 120hz.
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Almost all of them do. Originally it started with the Catleap that had a paritcular pcb that allowed it to be overclockable. From there, the QNIX based on the AMOLED displays (vs the Catleap's IPS) came into play where the overwhelming majority will overclock. There have been variations like the X-Star (slightly cheaper variant of the qnix) and the overlord (a US based ish version of the Catleap). I've had a Catleap and 3 separate QNIX displays all of which have hit 120hz.

My QNIX hits 120hz, and it can do 144hz but I have slight ghosting and a darker image (all people have this). Those increase significantly with the increased res.

Also I'm 100% sure the panel is a PLS (samsung "version"/variant of IPS). The largest amoled commercial screen is 12.2" to my knowledge.

I'd love pure black monitors though.......that are under $2000 and have ppi of ~200.

23"/4" 4k display with pure black thumb.gif
    
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My QNIX hits 120hz, and it can do 144hz but I have slight ghosting and a darker image (all people have this). Those increase significantly with the increased res.

Also I'm 100% sure the panel is a PLS (samsung "version"/variant of IPS). The largest amoled commercial screen is 12.2" to my knowledge.

I'd love pure black monitors though.......that are under $2000 and have ppi of ~200.

23"/4" 4k display with pure black thumb.gif

Yes you're right, had a brain fart there and was thinking about some smartphone or something lol.
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I'd love pure black monitors though.......that are under $2000 and have ppi of ~200.

23"/4" 4k display with pure black thumb.gif

Well .. if you can live with bezels ...

4608x2048 resolution, approx 20'' diagonal for that array, ~265 ppi. Granted it's regular IPS @ 60 Hz only. But the price-tag is approx ~250$ plus whatever it will cost you to get decent enough VESA stand to put such high ppi "in your face" to make it usable wink.gif
It's a long thread but details can be found in there: http://www.overclock.net/t/1389756/custom-screen-31-3600x1600-cost-250 - it's not only about this particular setup but a general thread about making your own screens from laptop/tablet spare parts.
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He was not showcasing the 39" he was showing MST mode on the Dell 32"

Anyway speak for yourself, 39" is PERFECT for me. Sadly after a little conversation with JJ of asus in the message board at Assus PCDIY it does not look like the Asus 39" will ever see the light of day mad.gif

ME: JJ are you guys still going to produce the 39″ 60hz 4k VA panel? I NEED the 39″ for the office! Please tell me you making those too!

JJ: Thanks for the feedback. As of right now their are no immediate plans for a 39inch 4K monitor especially VA based as there are a number of considerations with VA panels.

SO EVERYONE THAT WANTS TO SEE THE 39" 4K 60HZ Asus happen, better flood in and spam Asus with requests!
Source: http://pcdiy.asus.com/2014/01/pb287q-4k-for-the-masses/

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^BE HEARD AND RATTLE THEIR CAGE^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks for this. Can't say I'm surprised, but I'm extremely disappointed. I will never buy a 4K screen at the (relatively) tiny size of 28"... 1440p is fine at that size. I want a 36" to 46" 4k monitor, and it looks like none of the monitor companies are going to do that anytime soon.

Guess I'll wait to get a TV then. Maybe the Seiki screens will get a refresh with 60 Hz capability.
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Guess I'll wait to get a TV then. Maybe the Seiki screens will get a refresh with 60 Hz capability.

chin up bud. of course they will, its in the HDMi 2.0 standard. All TV's wanting to play proper 4K material from Sony Blueray at the end of the year and pass the new Hvec codecs will require HDMIi 2.0

so don't worry. they are coming its just early days

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