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Oh boy...

I've never been impressed with the Atom architecture. I bought a dual-core one with a dedicated GPU, and it was seriously the slowest computer I've ever used in my life. I'm actually half-convinced that there was something defective about it, because my old Athlon XP 2000+ was faster than that piece of junk.
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post #12 of 43
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Originally Posted by BizzareRide View Post

It won't match current Haswell IPC, but it will be many-core and likely compete in multithreaded scenarios.

IPC will still be terrible relative to desktop processors (never mind haswell, it's not going to come close to Core 2), and it would take a lot of cores to compete even in multithreaded scenarios.

Still, it will be more than fast enough for most general usage.
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post #13 of 43
Cut down big cores or beefed up little cores. Hey if these consume just the same amount of power as a plugged phone while playing 4k then I'm all ears smile.gif
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Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Yes. Intel has two main CPU lines..... their big core and then their little core.

Their big core designs (Haswell, IVB, SB, etc) are powerful and target the 15-140w range.

Their little core design (Atom, note singular) is low power and target the 1-10w range. We really need to see what the new Atom design can do, but it will not be as good as a cut-down big core.

Only 2? What about Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge E and Xeon's etc.
    
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post #15 of 43
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Only 2? What about Sandy Bridge E and Ivy Bridge E and Xeon's etc.

Sorry, I should have been more specific.... two core architectures.

Sandy Bridge E is obvious the SB microarchitecture.
Ivy Bridge E is obvious the IVB microarchitecture.

Xeon, Core, Pentium, and Celeron all use the same "big" core architectures today.
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So...will these be worse than previous Pentiums and Celerons?

They still want to live on Pentiums? The chip that got them owned? WHOA! Guess some people never learn from their mistakes!
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They still want to live on Pentiums? The chip that got them owned? WHOA! Guess some people never learn from their mistakes!

Pentium was the brand that allowed them to dominate CPUs. "Pentium" is still a known brandname and Intel today still sells cutdown chips with this name. They also cutdown even more (usually in cache) and brand these chips "Celeron".

You are talking about "Netburst"... the mircoarchitecture of Pentium 4.
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Oh boy...

I've never been impressed with the Atom architecture. I bought a dual-core one with a dedicated GPU, and it was seriously the slowest computer I've ever used in my life. I'm actually half-convinced that there was something defective about it, because my old Athlon XP 2000+ was faster than that piece of junk.

Oh yes, classic Atom CPUs were/are HORRIBLE. Much like you, I experienced an Atom-powered netbook once and it was absolutely painful. Internet Explorer must have taken 30 seconds just to draw on the screen.

That being said, Silvermont is the first real new revision, and it's a major one. If nothing else, going from an in-order to an out-of-order design should yield a significant boost in performance. "Big" Atom cores will probably deliver a passable experience for low-end laptop and desktop users. I wouldn't ever want to have to work on one, however.
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Oh yes, classic Atom CPUs were/are HORRIBLE. Much like you, I experienced an Atom-powered netbook once and it was absolutely painful. Internet Explorer must have taken 30 seconds just to draw on the screen.

At a nearby university, the tech department purchased a couple of Atom laptops a while ago because they were cheap and easy to transport.

The average life expectancy of a laptop at the university is 5-6 years.

The Atom laptops were retired from service in about 3 years.

Pity the employees that had to use the laptops for three years.
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I still have a working original Atom netbook. tongue.gif
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