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Another clean energy scam looking to bilk people out of money. meh
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It has nothing to do with the star's density...once you've fused your way to where all you have left is iron it takes too much energy to fuse iron with something; even for a giant star. So the internal reaction that is keeping the core stable stops and causes it to explode. Now Ni is not Fe, but they are very close and nickel is actually a larger atom so it will take more energy to fuse. That is why we've typically been trying to do fusion with things like Tritium which is a hydrogen atom with two neutrons slamed in it. It would have an atomic weight of 3 while nickel would be 58 I think...I'd need to look it up, but it is 58-60 some where in there. I know iron is 56 (55.85 is what we used in class, heh, don't ask me how I can remember that and not all sorts of other more important stuff).

Unless the nickel is just being used like a catalyst or something and the hydrogen in the tube is doing all the fusion reactions. That could be part of the trick. They are forcing the hydrogen to fuse by loosing energy, but at the same time heating up the nickel...nickel is pretty good at holding heat. To a thermal camera it might look like more energy is going out than in if they started it up and let the nickel absorb a bunch and then started measuring.

Once it goes supernova that creates all the heavier elements. So why or how he supposedly is using nickel is anyone's guess. I know I'm not going to be wondering why. tongue.gif
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The authors also note various assumptions they made about the test and that they weren’t in control of all of the aspects of the process but they apparently didn’t consider any of these to be egregious enough to be showstoppers.

Yea, sure. A magic happens. He's just looking for extra idiots sending him money.
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Yea, sure. A magic happens. He's just looking for extra idiots sending him money.
This processes is a scam and even if real not very efficient.
Even with the lightest particles available creating the massa defect is hard to do with positive net energy and can only be done on a large scale.
So this either sucks in terms of profit or is a scam.
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After reading: New Energy Times he sounds like a very skilled con-man
wouldn't get your hopes up

Thank you for posting that. I haven't followed this story at all but after reading that report I'm having a hard time seeing Rossi as anything but a con-man.

Here's what did it for me:

He starts his own scientific journal, Journal of Nuclear Physics

Two days later, he submits a paper (which the co-author did not know of a fundamental aspect of his invention: the "secret catalyst")

He appointed himself as editor of the Journal of Nuclear Physics

He goes on to cite his own journal entry, which he published in his own journal, in a patent application for his device.



One day I hope to see fusion reactors in full swing but I believe we're still a good 5-10 years from that.
   
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Though it should be pointed that nickle is very close to iron on the periodic table...and iron is what kills stars. Once the core of star does fusion reactions up to iron the reaction gets out of balance and it goes super nova...well that it most commonly believed theory anyway.

But here we are doing fusion in a small tube with nickle that actually has a greater atomic mass than iron when even a massive star can't do it with iron? I hope I am missing some property about nickle fusing with hydrogen. I know we use nickle and hydrogen batteries all the time. So you'd think that chemical and nuclear reactions would be well researched. However, I am no expert on it...I just took a few chemistry classes in college. Any one in the thread that is an actual chemist or a "radical engineer"?

I think I am even more skeptic now...and was actually getting a spark of hope that I might see cold fusion in my life time.


I was under the impression that when a star with a big enough mass exhausted all of its fuel, the pressure from nuclear fusion at the core couldn't over come the force of gravity causing it to go nova or supernova... uh oh wait a minute I guess that is what you are saying just in a wierd way, haha!wink.gif I completely do not understand the processes of the chemistry involved in this and would like some enlightenment also!  

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