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post #591 of 715
Hey everyone! I have a question here, but a little background first. I am using three debezelled Dell ST2310 23" monitors with 3M VHB (Very High Bond) industrial tape to adhere them to the VESA mounts on my stand. For some reason though I can never get them lined up perfectly and when I finally do get them lined up perfectly the tape on one of the monitors goes bad and I have to replace it and restart the entire process.

It is quite frustrating, and I've been dealing with this for almost 4 months now. I live in constant fear of my monitors falling and playing games in Eyefinity when they aren't lined up perfectly is pretty terrible aswell... Frankly, I'm fed up and about to just drop $500 on all new ASUS monitors with VESA mounts... But I want to fix the perfectly good ones I have if possible... redface.gif

The 3M VHB industrial tape is rated for 20lbs even in extreme heat or cold. This is why I purchased it and it wasn't cheap! But unfortunately it doesn't seem to be cutting it, so my question to you all is, what do you use to perfectly (and permanently) mount your panels to your VESA stands after debezelling? I really want something that I can do once, get the angles and lines perfect, then forget about it and NEVER worry about it falling or being out of alignment again. I would even sacrifice being able to remove the monitors from the stand if it meant I could get it perfect.

Thanks for all of your suggestions and listening to my rant in advance. Most of it is probably due to my drive for perfection anyways. rolleyes.gif

P.S. - Here is a pic. of my set-up. Feel free to add me to the club! (Sorry for the clutter though, this is my dorm room at College thumb.gif)

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post #592 of 715
We all have our own ways. I am more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy.



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post #593 of 715
woooww ..... Great monitor, how much it costs to make it all thumb.gif
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We all have our own ways. I am more of a nuts and bolts kind of guy.



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Hmm, my monitor has a very similar back to yours, I may have to just go the nuts and bolts route. What did you use to tap the holes? Just an electric drill, or what?
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post #595 of 715
I used a drill press, but a hand drill should do just fine. I went to sears with the Vesa mount and the back part of the panel since I had to get washers to make a flat level surface. I suggest wing nuts as they are much easier to get off in the future than needing some form of wrench. I also suggest lock washers placed on the head side of the bolt. That way you have some tension against the bolt when tightening. Since in most cases you won't be able to get at the head of the bolt once it is attached to the panel.

If you choose you could even epoxy the head of the bolt to the hole that way they do not fall through on you when you remove your mount.

I chose this route since I was convinced that no form of Tape or Epoxy is going to hold up long term (years) against the constant heating and cooling that the monitor will undergo.
It also allows me to simply re attach the bezels and sell the monitors if I choose to. The epoxy method is going to leave a huge mess when removed. My monitors are no where near top of the line, but I surely cannot afford to come home one day to have one or all of them smashed against my desk.

My original post is just a few pages back. I added some tips there at the bottom. I will only reiterate that if your monitor panel is attached to the cage that holds the electronics with aluminum tape. Get a roll of this tape and that will make sure the metal cage doesn't bend from being used as the new mounting point. Along with also using some large washers if you can manage to make them fit. This will help distribute the force, or at the very least attempt to prevent the holes from being destroyed by the weight of the monitor.

Another tip, when you remount the cage to the panel itself be sure to test the screen. On one of my monitors the cable that sends the signal was loose and it made the picture all fuzzy and green. After re mounting the cable everything was fine.

It was the first one I tested and I was pretty upset thinking I had just broke all 3 monitors in the same way. Do not get discouraged, just take your time and plan the work and then work the plan. I have never opened a monitor before this. (Other than when I was a stupid child and was messing around with an old all in one PC 386 DX2 CRT) I just read up on this entire thread and then went to work on the project. I was unfortunate enough to not have Vesa mounts on the panel itself. I still feel it was worth the debezel. It is amazing the difference in the gap. Good luck with your new mount construction.

HTH,
-NN
Edited by NitroNarcosis - 1/13/15 at 7:29am
post #596 of 715
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Originally Posted by NitroNarcosis View Post

I used a drill press, but a hand drill should do just fine. I went to sears with the Vesa mount and the back part of the panel since I had to get washers to make a flat level surface. I suggest wing nuts as they are much easier to get off in the future than needing some form of wrench. I also suggest lock washers placed on the head side of the bolt. That way you have some tension against the bolt when tightening. Since in most cases you won't be able to get at the head of the bolt once it is attached to the panel.

If you choose you could even epoxy the head of the bolt to the hole that way they do not fall through on you when you remove your mount.

I chose this route since I was convinced that no form of Tape or Epoxy is going to hold up long term (years) against the constant heating and cooling that the monitor will undergo.
It also allows me to simply re attach the bezels and sell the monitors if I choose to. The epoxy method is going to leave a huge mess when removed. My monitors are no where near top of the line, but I surely cannot afford to come home one day to have one or all of them smashed against my desk.

My original post is just a few pages back. I added some tips there at the bottom. I will only reiterate that if your monitor panel is attached to the cage that holds the electronics with aluminum tape. Get a roll of this tape and that will make sure the metal cage doesn't bend from being used as the new mounting point. Along with also using some large washers if you can manage to make them fit. This will help distribute the force, or at the very least attempt to prevent the holes from being destroyed by the weight of the monitor.

Another tip, when you remount the cage to the panel itself be sure to test the screen. On one of my monitors the cable that sends the signal was loose and it made the picture all fuzzy and green. After re mounting the cable everything was fine.

It was the first one I tested and I was pretty upset thinking I had just broke all 3 monitors in the same way. Do not get discouraged, just take your time and plan the work and then work the plan. I have never opened a monitor before this. (Other than when I was a stupid child and was messing around with an old all in one PC 386 DX2 CRT) I just read up on this entire thread and then went to work on the project. I was unfortunate enough to not have Vesa mounts on the panel itself. I still feel it was worth the debezel. It is amazing the difference in the gap. Good luck with your new mount construction.

HTH,
-NN

Thanks for all of the helpful information! I even checked your previous post as well. My only remaining question though is, how do you know where to mark the holes to drill so that the monitors line up perfectly? I'm not sure if it is the same for you, but to get mine to line up perfect the VESA mounts do not attach at the same points on all three monitors. Or is this just me doing something wrong? redface.gif
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post #597 of 715
I got lucky...
First: There were indents in the metal housing where the mount holes should have been. Granted they were huge so obviously the mounts are not perfect.

Second: The Black knob to the right (In the picture above that I posted) adjusts the monitor up and down about 1 1/2 inches each direction. (Sweet foresight I had when I bought my monitor stand)

If you are not lucky enough to have this luck, then I would suggest this:

Measure center on the back of the monitor cage. Measure two diagonal lines from each corner. Where they meet should be dead center.

Create yourself a perfectly square template (Using a piece of wood) which is slightly larger than your vesa mount contact points.

Drill holes where the Vesa screws will go into the template.

Drill a hole dead center in the middle of this template.

Line it up so it is dead center on the monitor.

Use a level and make sure the template is perfectly level.

Clamp it down, drill your holes. Repeat,

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post #598 of 715
why not just pull off the metal frame on the sides that are joined? could really cut down on the width of the bezels remaining, possibly even eliminate them

use some sort of epoxy to hold the panels together if needed
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Originally Posted by NitroNarcosis View Post

I got lucky...
First: There were indents in the metal housing where the mount holes should have been. Granted they were huge so obviously the mounts are not perfect.

Second: The Black knob to the right (In the picture above that I posted) adjusts the monitor up and down about 1 1/2 inches each direction. (Sweet foresight I had when I bought my monitor stand)

If you are not lucky enough to have this luck, then I would suggest this:

Measure center on the back of the monitor cage. Measure two diagonal lines from each corner. Where they meet should be dead center.

Create yourself a perfectly square template (Using a piece of wood) which is slightly larger than your vesa mount contact points.

Drill holes where the Vesa screws will go into the template.

Drill a hole dead center in the middle of this template.

Line it up so it is dead center on the monitor.

Use a level and make sure the template is perfectly level.

Clamp it down, drill your holes. Repeat,

HTH,
-NN

Alright, this sounds great. I am going to attempt it tonight. I just have to run to my local Lowe's quick and grab a small hand drill and some bolts/nuts/washers etc. Wish me luck! thumb.gif
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post #600 of 715
hey guys!

I finally got my dream setup yesterday and picked up the third and final VG248QE from my local Fry's. I was eager and tired so I ended up just setting them on my desk to give them a whirl with the bezels still on, and I was suprised at how well it still comes together with them nearly side by side... I had an absolute blast and stayed up far later than I should have.... Couldnt believe the power it required though, ive never even remotely seen my GPUs get stressed like that. Brought those bad boys to their freakin knees!

Anyway, Im extremely excited to debezel them tonight, and ive heard that these are particularly easier than other monitors to accomplish.

Does anyone have any pointers or tips, or perhaps and article or video that would help point me in the right direction? or perhaps materials or resources I may require? I dont plan on necessarily purchasing a triple mount soon, However I will eventually. Im going to mount them in portrait. thanks



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