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Could a great little unit, makes me think of those "steam box" units that were popping up a while ago.
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finally, AMD could have taken on the NUC with their APU long time ago

portable palm top gaming monster here i come
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Intel is doing a doing a good job with the Iris pro 5200. It is beating the current A10-5800 in newer games.

funny how itnel takes que from clueless apple rather then consumers themselves.

still iris pro has embeded memory obviously it will be better. the A10 is capped by memory bandwidth no thanks to DDR3. embeded GDDR5 on kaveri would make it fly
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617$ beating out just a bit of a 120$ proc ... YOU DON'T SAY? Hang on. I've gotta pair this 7850 up with a 7850 that costs way less in total than your 617$ proc is and get drastically better performance
And not to forget, the R models with iris and iris pro are on BGA boards

Never said it was a fair comparison especially given the intel is a mobile platform and the A10 is a desktop platform. Just saying they are getting some impressive performance for power with a few cheats (22nm and on package eDRAM). Also as mobile platform 600$ isn't bad especially considering it is replacing 300 to 400$ quad cores and a discrete 640/650M. On the other hand AMD doesn't really try to compete in that range of mobile performance, again that being said I cant wait to see what Kabini can do in its price bracket as it will not be competing with Iris pro.
Edited by rancor - 6/3/13 at 8:16pm
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Don't forget either - Iris Pro is currently reserved for Intel BGA CPUs (soldered).

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Thank you for that info man. wink.gif +rep
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Never said it was a fair comparison especially given the intel is a mobile platform and the A10 is a desktop platform. Just saying they are getting some impressive performance for power with a few cheats (22nm and on package eDRAM). Also as mobile platform 600$ isn't bad especially considering it is replacing 300 to 400$ quad cores and a discrete 640/650M. On the other hand AMD doesn't really try to compete in that range of mobile performance, again that being said I cant wait to see what Kabini can do in its price bracket as it will not be competing with Iris pro.

Oh wait, richland is out.
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With very expensive edram... AMD gets that performance with regular DDR3. It won't even touch Kaveri with GDDR5.

Just how expensive is edram anyway?
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The Intel NUC is on the hot side with ~23-25W, this AMD version will be interesting with a 15W jaguar APU (quad 1.5GHz if we use embedded models as a reference). The 25W TDP 2GHz quad might be a bit too much for this form factor.
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Just how expensive is edram anyway?

eDRAM is typically used as processor cache, and is expensive because its part of the processor's die. Its performance and cost per bit is between regular DRAM and SRAM
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eDRAM is typically used as processor cache, and is expensive because its part of the processor's die. Its performance and cost per bit is between regular DRAM and SRAM

The eDRAM is basically l4 cache and is on package not the die. Intel made it on package in case demand was not as good as they hope for and the eDRAM caches anything the l3 evicts or can't handle. If a a different gpu would be used then the 128mb of l4 cache would go all to the cpu to help.


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