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My second replacement just came in. Identical issue as the last one. 'Bout to rage fit.

My 560Ti works in every PCIE slot, with every set of power cables. No issue. Works overclocked, works with reset BIOS, whatever.

680L refuses to work in any slot with any cables.

680L + 560ti refuses to work in any setup.

No matter what I do, as soon as I introduce the 680L into the system, it refuses to boot. I get POST hangs at 2b, 75, 7F, or occasionally make it all the way to FF but not display anything on the screen and the keyboard LEDs (caps lock, etc) will not respond. Sometimes POST codes just cycle endlessly making little beeps everytime C1 comes up.



Now... this is the SECOND replacement I've gotten from MSI RMA. I'm completely at a loss. Is it really possible they sent me three defective cards in a row, and that the last 2 have identical issues?

I almost want to think it's something wrong with my MOBO, but I just can't reproduce the issue with any hardware other than the 680L, and even the original 680L worked fine for a few months! I've also thought it could be my somewhat old PSU giving out, but I can overvolt my CPU and 560ti to high heaven and they work fine. I can even toss my old 295 into the second slot and it'll still boot without issue. Surely a 680L and the same CPU both at stock don't draw more power than that!


Do I go through another month of waiting for MSI RMA to send me another 680L or what? What would you guys do? I'm completely at a loss here.
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Time to test the card in another PC. I'm leaning towards a MB compatibility issue.
 
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Time to test the card in another PC. I'm leaning towards a MB compatibility issue.

^This.

Don't you have a friend or neighbor where you can try the GTX680 on his PC?
    
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Why would it be a mobo compatability issue though, if my original Lightning worked fine for several months before it started giving me issues (red screen, BSOD, artifacts, etc)? Perhaps I didn't make that part clear in the original post.

I sent in that first card that eventually died, and the card I received back from RMA showed the issues in the first post. I sent that card in too, and the replacement is the same as the last one.

You think maybe it's because of a different BIOS version on the cards I got back from RMA? The original card that worked for a while was one of the original 5000 batch of lightnings. I'm sure these new ones from RMA have the new voltage-locked BIOS, but I can't really tell which version since I can't boot with it.

I do have one local friend who might be able to test it in his rig for me, so I'll see about setting that up.
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IS your power supply good enough?
is your motherboard providing enough power for your graphic card
you can put 560ti back on and update bios

You could put 560 ti in primary slot and 680 in secondary slot and connect monitor with 560 and see if it boots (only if psu can power all these cards)

if there is extra power connectors for pci-e power on your motherboard, you could plug that in

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http://www.overclock.net/t/1280007/official-msi-gtx-680-lightning-owners-club
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Why would it be a mobo compatability issue though, if my original Lightning worked fine for several months before it started giving me issues (red screen, BSOD, artifacts, etc)? Perhaps I didn't make that part clear in the original post.

I sent in that first card that eventually died, and the card I received back from RMA showed the issues in the first post. I sent that card in too, and the replacement is the same as the last one.

You think maybe it's because of a different BIOS version on the cards I got back from RMA? The original card that worked for a while was one of the original 5000 batch of lightnings. I'm sure these new ones from RMA have the new voltage-locked BIOS, but I can't really tell which version since I can't boot with it.

I do have one local friend who might be able to test it in his rig for me, so I'll see about setting that up.

Regardless of whether it worked before or not, at this point you need to test it in another PC to determine if its the card or some other part in your PC.
 
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Originally Posted by danielkim624 View Post

IS your power supply good enough?
is your motherboard providing enough power for your graphic card
you can put 560ti back on and update bios

You could put 560 ti in primary slot and 680 in secondary slot and connect monitor with 560 and see if it boots (only if psu can power all these cards)

if there is extra power connectors for pci-e power on your motherboard, you could plug that in

edit : you can ask them, they should know a lot than me
http://www.overclock.net/t/1280007/official-msi-gtx-680-lightning-owners-club

MY PSU is a Corsair HX1000. It should be more than enough to boot with stock settings, even with as bit of capacitor aging. The fact I can run everything overclocked, including my old power hungry 295 backs this up.

The system won't POST with the 680 installed, even as a secondary card, so unless I can get it to work in another system, I don't see any way to flash its BIOS.

As mentioned in the original post, I've tried using different PCIE power cables.
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Regardless of whether it worked before or not, at this point you need to test it in another PC to determine if its the card or some other part in your PC.

Fair enough, only I don't really have access to a computer that can accommodate such a large card, unless I can convince a friend to strip his computer apart and run his mobo on a cardboard box.
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I meant put 560ti which is working and update the bios (without 680)
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I meant put 560ti which is working and update the bios (without 680)
How would I update the 680L's BIOS without it plugged in?

Or did you mean the mobo BIOS? It's already running the latest BIOS version.
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