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Yeah, go with an 8320 if possible. It's cheaper than the Haswell 4670k but go with Intel if you got money. Though I personally think Haswell was disappointing for various reasons.

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Sure was disappointing, but for somebody that doesn't already have an unlocked sandy/IVY, haswell is still a HUGE upgrade. Not to mention, the fastest IPC than any other processor. Even if it's just SLIGHTLY better than an IVY, it doesn't make this CPU any worse.....cause even an IVY bridge CPU is still amazing (just bought a 3770k last week)
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post #22 of 33
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Sure was disappointing, but for somebody that doesn't already have an unlocked sandy/IVY, haswell is still a HUGE upgrade. Not to mention, the fastest IPC than any other processor. Even if it's just SLIGHTLY better than an IVY, it doesn't make this CPU any worse.....cause even an IVY bridge CPU is still amazing (just bought a 3770k last week)

I just feel Sandy Bridge is still the best value for money with overclocking in mind. Feel free to disagree with me though.
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I just feel Sandy Bridge is still the best value for money with overclocking in mind. Feel free to disagree with me though.

Indeed. My i5-2550k that I just upgraded from was PERFECTLY fine for everything (especially considering it was 24/7 for folding) I just couldn't resist that intel retail edge deal this past month tongue.gif
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post #24 of 33
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Going AMD now is a long term bet for games. If most of the consoles are utilized and ported correctly AMD systems might get a pretty good boost against the competition. But will that really happen? No one knows, and with the release of Haswell alot of the 3xxxK series from Intel have dropped in price making them a very good buy right now. It all depends on what you are planning on using this for.

PLEASE STOP, stop spouting off this information that AMD processors will get better in the future, it is not true. They are not "true" 8 cores and per-core are very slow (for gaming). If you buy AMD now do not expect performance for games to increase in the futures, what you see is what you get, if you want a budget processor for gaming NOW, it's an ok purchase, but for this guy; not so much. The reason I say that is that he can afford a better option, and unless he wants to save some money and not spend his full $300 I recommend going Intel for the best gaming performance for his budget.

Lastly, if the 8 cores actually proved to be a threat, Intel would have developed something that would keep them on top, however, AMD can't even beat last gen i5s.

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PLEASE STOP, stop spouting off this information that AMD processors will get better in the future, it is not true. They are not "true" 8 cores and per-core are very slow (for gaming). If you buy AMD now do not expect performance for games to increase in the futures, what you see is what you get, if you want a budget processor for gaming NOW, it's an ok purchase, but for this guy; not so much. The reason I say that is that he can afford a better option, and unless he wants to save some money and not spend his full $300 I recommend going Intel for the best gaming performance for his budget.

Lastly, if the 8 cores actually proved to be a threat, Intel would have developed something that would keep them on top, however, AMD can't even beat last gen i5s.

It's not an opinion.

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Cinebench is not a game.

TurboTimeTV is exactly correct. (Current-gen) AMD processors are not going to magically become better for gaming than (current-gen) Intel processors in the future. Now matter how much people click their heels together and wish really really hard.
    
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Cinebench is not a game.

TurboTimeTV is exactly correct. (Current-gen) AMD processors are not going to magically become better for gaming than (current-gen) Intel processors in the future. Now matter how much people click their heels together and wish really really hard.

First off I didn't Quote him for games comment.

I quoted him for claiming that an FX 8000 series wasn't an 8 core.

In which case I clearly have proof it IS an eight core.

you can't Test single thread and then complain about it's multiple thread is lacking, because in single thread you only have FOUR front full ends and FOUR cores being used.

you have to Run the single thread with the something else running on the other core to split the work to show the the actual speed of the cores when the Front end is split up and in half for all 8 threads.

do you not see my ITB set to every other core along with cinebench 11.5r running on the opposite ?

This is to show this the proper single thread speed when both cores are being used in the module.
    
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post #28 of 33
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First off I didn't Quote him for games comment.

I quoted him for claiming that an FX 8000 series wasn't an 8 core.

In which case I clearly have proof it IS an eight core.

you can't Test single thread and then complain about it's multiple thread is lacking, because in single thread you only have FOUR front full ends and FOUR cores being used.

you have to Run the single thread with the something else running on the other core to split the work to show the the actual speed of the cores when the Front end is split up and in half for all 8 threads.

do you not see my ITB set to every other core along with cinebench 11.5r running on the opposite ?

This is to show this the proper single thread speed when both cores are being used in the module.

There aren't 8 actual cores, it's similar to the HT in Intel. There are 4 FPUs which split off into 2 logical cores a piece (equaling 8 logical cores), that's how it can be named an 8-core processor. If Bulldozer was labeled as a true 8 core, then you must think the first generation of i7 CPUs (along with all others with HT) are too?

Please read up, and as stated above, Cinebench provides very little real world resolve in Bulldozer's place among the the current processors.
 
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post #29 of 33
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First off I didn't Quote him for games comment.

I quoted him for claiming that an FX 8000 series wasn't an 8 core.

In which case I clearly have proof it IS an eight core.

you can't Test single thread and then complain about it's multiple thread is lacking, because in single thread you only have FOUR front full ends and FOUR cores being used.

you have to Run the single thread with the something else running on the other core to split the work to show the the actual speed of the cores when the Front end is split up and in half for all 8 threads.

do you not see my ITB set to every other core along with cinebench 11.5r running on the opposite ?

This is to show this the proper single thread speed when both cores are being used in the module.

And this:

Sure, the FX 8xxx series have 8 cores... kinda. Each integer core shares resources with another core. So one core can be waiting while the other core is busy with the shared resources. Each module contains 2 cores that share said resouces inclucing prefetch module, floating point core, and L2 cache.

So while there are technically 8 integer cores, there aren't really eight independent cores.
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Op, get what YOU want. I have both AMD and Intel Rigs, all oc'd and i like BOTH MANUFACTURERS! IMHO AMD is more fun to play with...I don't run them oc'd all the time because I'm not a gamer and they are powerful enough (AMD 1100t, AMD 965 BE, Intel 2500k). I am definitely not your average OCN member, either. I totally cheated and used the guides here and it took no time to find good, stable setups. As stated in an above post, you will get bored with whatever oc you do. Only your budget and your imagination will keep it interesting.
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