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Seriously? Have you read any tech site that deals with gpus in the past 4 months? That's all they talk about, though I never seemed to have too much of a problem with it

I was JUST reading a tom's hardware post on the subject, where they came to the same consensus I had. Then I read a review of 6870s in CrossFire X by Guru3d, which saw no problems. Though I didn't see anything about 7000 series GPUs other than "Buy one 7970 for now and X-Fire later!".

 

Ill be able to answer this dilemma myself soon anyway. All my parts are on the way in.

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You will be able to run 1440p @ 120Hz fine, whether the monitor you get can actually be run at that refresh rate and whether your GPU's can pull 120FPS is another matter.

I'm assuming Qnix monitors are similar to Catleaps in which case it will be the luck of the draw on the monitor on if it can be OC'ed to 120Hz (GPU takes no part in this). That and also whether it will be stable without blur.

For 120FPS you'd most likely need SLI 780's especially if you want max quality with some AA (not really necessary). You can always run with just one and test it before going with SLI

EDIT: And also "Define" maxed. You are going to be getting an IQ improvement just by moving to IPS 1440p, is your objective to get 120fps or to run at unecessary settings that do not improve IQ but drag your performance down (AA and SS would be the main culprits at 1440p)
When I say maxed, I mean exactly that. Not one thing can be bumped up any farther. Ultra settings on everything, far render distance, 16x AA, the whole shebang. I know maxing AA on a 1440p is useless for most people, but if I can do it now then in a year or two when I can't max AA anymore I will still be holding down with maybe a 8x or even 4x AA no problem. So in a nutshell, my goal is to run at unnecessary settings biggrin.gif

As far as the Qnix go, IIRC they are guaranteed to hit 96hz since they don't use the LG IPS display, but rather the Samsung PLS display with a different PCB. 120hz is very common for them.
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If youre really looking on spending that $1200 budget, then I'd SLI 780s and forget water cooling them - maybe go for a slight overclock and youll murder every game outside of Crytek games on Ultra@1440p

Then save up for a couple water blocks if youre pushing to get them both OC'd.
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When I say maxed, I mean exactly that. Not one thing can be bumped up any farther. Ultra settings on everything, far render distance, 16x AA, the whole shebang. I know maxing AA on a 1440p is useless for most people, but if I can do it now then in a year or two when I can't max AA anymore I will still be holding down with maybe a 8x or even 4x AA no problem. So in a nutshell, my goal is to run at unnecessary settings biggrin.gif

As far as the Qnix go, IIRC they are guaranteed to hit 96hz since they don't use the LG IPS display, but rather the Samsung PLS display with a different PCB. 120hz is very common for them.

Afaik you stick 4xMSAA, SSAA, DoF and Tesselation on Metro or Crysis at 1440p and you will dip to 30fps or less even with SLI 780's
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From what I've gathered since the days of the 6000 series cards, micro stutter isn't a problem anymore? I was thinking about Cross firing 6870s and I came to the conclusion the 5000 series suffered from micro stutter but the 6000 series was fine. Since then I haven't heard anything about AMD being bad with micro stutter, it was just the >6000 series as far as I'm aware.

You should have seen my mates 6970's, they stuttered like hell
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As an owner of a 780, you will not even get 60fps at 1440p. This means SLi 780's won't be enough for maxed at 120fps... probably not even SLi titans. You're going to need 3 heavily overclocked to even think about 120fps.

Also AA is still very much needed at 2560x1440. I can clearly see "jaggies" in every game I play.

(edit) and before anyone tries pointing a finger at my CPU, I'm hitting 100% GPU usage hard still.
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As an owner of a 780, you will not even get 60fps at 1440p. This means SLi 780's won't be enough for maxed at 120fps... probably not even SLi titans. You're going to need 3 heavily overclocked to even think about 120fps.

Also AA is still very much needed at 2560x1440. I can clearly see "jaggies" in every game I play.

(edit) and before anyone tries pointing a finger at my CPU, I'm hitting 100% GPU usage hard still.
hmnn idk maybe im playing crappy games , but i do get over 60 constantly on my 780 @ 1212 core..
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The AMD cards have a few things up their sleeves. They pull away from Nvidia at the high resolutions like 1440p, and they pull away more when they scale like a dual card solution should. If I were going one card, I'd say Nvidia. High res? definitely look at AMD.

780s murder the 7970, even more so at higher resolutions, unless you're talking about 770s?
 
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780s murder the 7970, even more so at higher resolutions, unless you're talking about 770s?

What?
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Murder rolleyes.gif

I agree with the advice to buy 2 780s but misinformations and exaggerations meh...

Except if you mean 2 cards vs 1
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As an owner of a 780, you will not even get 60fps at 1440p. This means SLi 780's won't be enough for maxed at 120fps... probably not even SLi titans. You're going to need 3 heavily overclocked to even think about 120fps.

Also AA is still very much needed at 2560x1440. I can clearly see "jaggies" in every game I play.

(edit) and before anyone tries pointing a finger at my CPU, I'm hitting 100% GPU usage hard still.
damn, if this is the case I may have to stick with a lower AA until I can round up the cash for a 3rd 780... Are you running heavy AA and high settings in all of these games? I also have a 3770k on the way currently that I will have OC'd to 4.6ghz ish depending on how it is holding up temp wise. My current 3570k can handle 5.0ghz under this loop, but I don't know how far I will HAVE to push the 3770k to make sure my CPU isn't the bottleneck.

edit - I also currently have 16gb of memeory in my system, was thinking of maybe doubling up and trying to ramdisk. Think it will have boost my performance a lot for my games, and should I just give my current 1600s to my little bro and just do 32gb of 2133s?
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damn, if this is the case I may have to stick with a lower AA until I can round up the cash for a 3rd 780... Are you running heavy AA and high settings in all of these games? I also have a 3770k on the way currently that I will have OC'd to 4.6ghz ish depending on how it is holding up temp wise. My current 3570k can handle 5.0ghz under this loop, but I don't know how far I will HAVE to push the 3770k to make sure my CPU isn't the bottleneck.

edit - I also currently have 16gb of memeory in my system, was thinking of maybe doubling up and trying to ramdisk. Think it will have boost my performance a lot for my games, and should I just give my current 1600s to my little bro and just do 32gb of 2133s?

Look at some of the reviews if you want exact numbers on specific games. Check out the numbers here for Crysis 3 (2560x1600 is pretty close to 2560x1440 performance). http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780_SLI/10.html ... 40fps with GTX780 SLi... and a questionably playable FPS in the low 20's with just a single 780. You would be definitely forced to turn down settings.

That's not to say you won't be able to get good FPS in lots of games... just the demanding ones that I'm sure you're thinking of spending this money for may be disappointing if you expect 90+fps for your 120hz display. With SLi 780's you'd be above 60 in your "average" looking new game.

As for the RAM disk, that typically only improves game load time, and not actual performance. In the rare case a game streams data from the HD, like Diablo 3, a SSD is enough to never from it.
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