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Can't compare different thermal sensors.

???

It has a lower thermal limit before the CPU throttles and heats up quicker than Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge at moderate OCs. How am I comparing thermal sensors?
I've heard AMD uses a different thermal sensor compared to what Intel uses.
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fractal node 304 - 6 HDDS + 1 SSD

Yes, because anyone in their right mind is going to actually need 6 HDDs and a SSD on a m-ITX AMD APU build.

On the other hand, almost everyone who builds such a small machine is going to want it to be fully wireless.

And no, it would not make a great dataserver. That title is reserved for machines with proper SAS RAID cards.
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Hmmm...my next mobo for Richland? Looks real nice. Why do I love APU's so much?
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TDP.

AMD3+ CPUs are terrible with respect to voltage/ VRM temps and need beefier VRM to have high OC.

If Im not mistaken the thermal limit for Bulldozer/Vishera is around 60°C which is lower than that of Intel. The biggest problem with SFF is dissipating heat and this higher heat generated compounded with the lower leeway with respect to heat on the CPU leads to low ITX interest.

They have 140W mATX motherboards with the 760G chipset, the highest TDP for FX-chips today is 125W. They even have 760G motherboards that overclock decently, probably up to 150W. Even the FX-8350 are supported by some 125W 760G-motherboards. They lack sata3 and most of them lack usb3 and only some few of them have decent VRM and cooling for it.
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I am so sad. Want this. SO MUCH.
   
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Yes, because anyone in their right mind is going to actually need 6 HDDs and a SSD on a m-ITX AMD APU build.

On the other hand, almost everyone who builds such a small machine is going to want it to be fully wireless.

And no, it would not make a great dataserver. That title is reserved for machines with proper SAS RAID cards.

Pretty much this ^
those cases are too big , if it can fit more than 2 drives in , it´s too big for me .

Sapphire´s the only other one to have announced their ITX board last year and still not release it. That and the no show this round from Asus , Why no ROG ITX FM2 love ASUS ?
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post #27 of 98
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Pretty much this ^
those cases are too big , if it can fit more than 2 drives in , it´s too big for me .

Sapphire´s the only other one to have announced their ITX board last year and still not release it. That and the no show this round from Asus , Why no ROG ITX FM2 love ASUS ?
Lol if you can't fit more than 2 drives in every itx available some just didn't optimize space. My <10l $40 itx could fit 2x3.5, a 2.5 and a slim optical. Or forgo the optical drive and you could fit 4x2.5. If you have a problem with itx cases that can hold a couple drives the prodigy must drive you nuts with its huge amount of wasted space...the Q25 is like half the size.
Some people use things differently then you. My brother is trying to shrink down, lower power use out of his data storage machine. that asrock board was perfect. WiFi? Doesn't need it.
Now, I'm sure the GB itx board is a welcome addition to the sparse ITx fm2 choices, but you shouldn't be ragging on those who use computers a little differently than you.
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For Richland and Trinity.


Source: techPowerUp, Gigabyte, Yesky

FINALLY... Honestly, how many mobo manufacturers actually do market research... We WANT a hardcore board with heatsinked VRMs!

I was 100% sure I was going Kabini (Gigabyte Brix) for lower power... but now, Kaveri is just screaming at me with this board.. hmm

Excited to see a high end 85X chipset, should be compatible with Kaveri / FM2+
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post #29 of 98
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Exactly what I was about to say. SATA ports are important on ATX boards, m-ITX is far better suited with wireless connectivity.
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Yes, because anyone in their right mind is going to actually need 6 HDDs and a SSD on a m-ITX AMD APU build.

On the other hand, almost everyone who builds such a small machine is going to want it to be fully wireless.

And no, it would not make a great dataserver. That title is reserved for machines with proper SAS RAID cards.
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Pretty much this ^
those cases are too big , if it can fit more than 2 drives in , it´s too big for me .

Sapphire´s the only other one to have announced their ITX board last year and still not release it. That and the no show this round from Asus , Why no ROG ITX FM2 love ASUS ?
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Yes, because anyone in their right mind is going to actually need 6 HDDs and a SSD on a m-ITX AMD APU build.

On the other hand, almost everyone who builds such a small machine is going to want it to be fully wireless.

And no, it would not make a great dataserver. That title is reserved for machines with proper SAS RAID cards.
You are thinking too narrowly.


mITX with lots of SATA ports are great for home file servers and HTPCs.

Since when do home file servers need SAS RAID controllers?
1) Network will already be a bottleneck.
2) Standard RAID does not scale well nor is it flexible. Software-based non-standard RAID is now more suitable for home servers.
3) Why would home servers use SAS drives? They aren't managing hundreds of disks.
Edited by DuckieHo - 6/5/13 at 7:54am
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There are two sides to it, yes mini itx servers are nice, and I see their uses, but for high end sff machines, some people get tired of these companies not being adventurous enough to make a small case with just a couple hdd mounts and optimize the space.

For really small itx gaming computers we pretty much have the

-silverstone sg05
-cooler master elite 120
-fractal design node 304.

The node 304 is actually capable of holding 6 hard drives while maintaining a tiny footprint and has room for a regular power supply, yet the million other itx cases all have the exact same offerings, but are considerably larger. They are big box shaped computer cases that the manufacturers dont put much thought into and just fill their left over blank space with hard drive cages.

Some of us get a little tired seeing the same big box itx cases that are matx size, not many companies out there are taking the initiative to build a small itx case for gamers, I can see why people are getting tired of it, I know I am.

I love the idea of a mini itx server, dont get me wrong, I am not saying I dont get it.
 
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