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- Having something built for you in the US then having it shipped is usually not a good idea unless the builder is used to doing international builds. There are some things that are region restricted, as well as you wanting to make sure you have an OS and software in your preferred language and region code.

- Your builder seems to either not know what he is talking about or taking you for a ride. the AMS radiators are decent performers, but the NexXxos radiators have always outperformed them in tests and reviews. The AMS radiators are also the singly most restrictive radiators currently produced as far as I have seen, but that is because they are 4-pass and most rads are 2-pass. You would either want to get/make optional end-caps that turn them into 2-pass or put them in parallel flow: they have higher restriction than most water blocks. You also want to know exactly what you're doing when you use them because their performance is greatly affected by the direction of water going through the rad in relation to the direction of air going through the rad.

- D5 pumps are made well enough to easily last until the hardware needs to be replaced, even with high restriction. There are some DDC pumps that get significantly hot if run at full speed that could fail over time if proper cooling were not implemented, but the D5 is not a DDC pump. Usually, the only thing that kills a pump is either if you run them dry or get junk in them from an unclean loop.

- Personally, I probably wouldn't go for the 80mm thick radiators (monstas) and would instead stick to the 60mm. That extra 20mm thickness doesn't add very much for cooling and makes it harder on the fans to get air all the way through as effectively as with a 60mm. The Aquacomputer rads are still pretty good as long as they are plumbed correctly and setup with the correct direction of air and water flow.
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Correct me if i am wrong. 4-pass means the water is sort of passing through the entire rad 4 times to have it cooled before it get released back into the system to all the water-blocks. As a result, water coming out of the aqua rad will be cooler relative to the water coming out of other rads.

But because water have to pass through 4 times in the radiator, the flow rate become severely restricted. And because flow rate is restricted and become slow, the heated up water cannot be transferred away fast enough from the waterblocks which then restrict the amount of heat that can be dissipated.

So right now i am spending money on a complex pierce of junk which command a premium not because it is really good at cooling but because it offer other features like it can be dismantled which no one give a damn. Am i right? I am so pissed. I am losing good money and getting crap:mad:mad.gif

I have 2 Aqua D5 pump. Will it be sufficient if i just max out the pump speed of both D5? Will it help overcome the waterflow restriction of the 2 aqua 480mm rads?
Edited by overclockerz - 6/6/13 at 9:32am
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Just get a 2-pass. It flows easier and you don't have to withstand the increased noise from a powerful pump tongue.gif
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post #34 of 41
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I am so pissed. I am losing good money and getting crap
The AMS rads are not crap, but they aren't the best performers either. As you said, their biggest plus is in their modularity and the ability to take them apart as well as not needing to be flushed since there is no solder.

All things that have restriction have a PQ curve (pressure vs flow); even a single D5 would be able to move water through them, just not as fast as two D5s or if they were put into parallel. Two rads in parallel would have about the same restriction as half of one: this would be what I suggest for using the AMS rads. Since each is 4-pass, that would be similar to using two 2-pass radiators in series as long as you get the air flow direction correct (the air coming in should be closest to the water going out).
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Looks like the work had kicked off. Here is 2 pic he sent me.



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I nearly thought that was a mITX board ... Dayum that case is MASSIVE tongue.gif
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To mé it was more looking like my bord in my case
Thas a Asus rampage 4 gene in a xspc h2 ^^
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I was given the option budget wise to opt for 1 more extra reservoir (hence making it 2 reservoirs) or use the budget to buy 8 more corsair performance series fans to do push-pull configuration on both aqua rads.

I opted for the latter. Hope i made the right choice.
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Originally Posted by overclockerz View Post

I was given the option budget wise to opt for 1 more extra reservoir (hence making it 2 reservoirs) or use the budget to buy 8 more corsair performance series fans to do push-pull configuration on both aqua rads.

I opted for the latter. Hope i made the right choice.

I think you made the right choice performance wise.
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You made the right choice, an extra reservoir is pointless and push pull fans do make a significant difference to overall airflow and cooling.

The Airplex modularity rads are not as restrictive as all that, however they are absolutely not less restrictive than the alphacool rads.

They are about the same as a modern CPU block


As compared to the most restrictive Alphacool rad, the thin ST30 .. they are about double.


They are still lower restriction than some rads like the Hardware Labs Black Ice GT Extreme


With twin D5's you will have plenty of power for a decent flow rate, and the rest of the system is nice low restriction parts.
In the end you would be hard pressed to see any difference in the results you will get, and at least with the rads you are getting you can dismantle them and clean them out if need be. They will provide many years of good use.
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