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You can run mixed raids (different drive size) and it is only as high as the lowest drive.

You also can run mixed speed hard drives in a raid. For instance a 2x 15k RPM drives and 1X 10k RPM drive. But the two faster drives will slow down to the point of the slowest drive which is 10k.

Guess I did a bad job explaining it. But the capacity part I was certain of, just wasn't sure how the RAID would like the variances in speed. Figured it slow down the fast drive to the slower drives speed similar to RAID0 only ever having a capacity 2x the capacity of the smaller drive. Guess I wasn't very clear with what I had said which isn't a shocker, posting on OCN trying to not get caught tongue.gif
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I've never been into running a RAID myself, but if you do make sure your board supports it #1. #2 make sure you get a drive that actually works well in RAID. There will be a lot of reading/writing on these drives for the array to stay afloat and make sure you dont cheap out.

If I were to ever run a raid, it would most probably be a raid1 or a raid10. A raid one is mirrored drives, so one drive dies just stick a new one in (slow because you have to write to both drives at the same time)

Or a raid 10 for speed and reliability. with 4x drives in a raid10, say I have 4x 2TB HDDs. I would have a maximum amount of 4TBs of raid storage and it is a much better option. 1 HDD can fail and you can rebuild it from the rest.
 
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I am generally against RAID1 & RAID10 as people can become complacent assuming that the mirror is like a backup. This is far from the case as if a file corrupts on one drive, that corrupted file is mirrored over. Or if you delete a portion of a document, you no longer have the original version as your backup just got rewritten. I'm more of a RAID5 RAID6 person. All about the redundancy here. Thats not to say RAID1 & RAID10 are bad, just that you cannot allow yourself to become complacent and believe its a backup solution as its not. You still need to do data backups even with those RAID setups.
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Sure, just set up the raid 0 on the hard drives, and then install windows on the ssd. When your computer boots up from the ssd, you can then access the hdds as an empty drive, where you can then stick all your data.
     
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I am generally against RAID1 & RAID10 as people can become complacent assuming that the mirror is like a backup. This is far from the case as if a file corrupts on one drive, that corrupted file is mirrored over. Or if you delete a portion of a document, you no longer have the original version as your backup just got rewritten. I'm more of a RAID5 RAID6 person. All about the redundancy here. Thats not to say RAID1 & RAID10 are bad, just that you cannot allow yourself to become complacent and believe its a backup solution as its not. You still need to do data backups even with those RAID setups.

Eh. Like my momma always said. you cant fix stupid xD
 
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Thanks for all the replys smile.gif

If i was to go away from the raid idea which is looking more likely lol would a 10000 rpm drive be a better option or is it not worth it for the price, because i know there expensive?

If not shall i go for a 7200 rpm and maybe go a bit more capacity instead of risking raid?

As always very much appreciate the help!

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Thanks for all the replys smile.gif

If i was to go away from the raid idea which is looking more likely lol would a 10000 rpm drive be a better option or is it not worth it for the price, because i know there expensive?

If not shall i go for a 7200 rpm and maybe go a bit more capacity instead of risking raid?

As always very much appreciate the help!

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I wouldn't buy a 10k drive, I was referring to server hard drives in that respect. I would pick up a 7200 rpm drive that can raid well and if it isnt fast enough you can always run that raid0. But you need to get an external hard drive to back that raid0 up to. So if you get 2x 1TB drives in a raid0 I would suggest picking up a 3TB external hard drive (preferably with usb 3.0 if you have a slot on your motherboard for it)
 
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I wouldn't buy a 10k drive, I was referring to server hard drives in that respect. I would pick up a 7200 rpm drive that can raid well and if it isnt fast enough you can always run that raid0. But you need to get an external hard drive to back that raid0 up to. So if you get 2x 1TB drives in a raid0 I would suggest picking up a 3TB external hard drive (preferably with usb 3.0 if you have a slot on your motherboard for it)
This is pretty much right. the 10K drives aren't worth it, for data at least. As for getting another drive, if its possible to, get the same as you already have for your current 7200RPM drive. This way if you decide you need more speed you have 2 "identical" drives which is the ideal RAID scenario. Plus, like he said, get an external that has a greater capacity than your RAID array so you can always backup your data.
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WD Blacks in Raid 0? ... DANGEROUS. I seriously wouldn't do that and ruin all my data if something goes wrong

Umm... no? While yes technically you do increase the chance of data failure (2 x failure rate of 1 drive) all you have to do is make a backup every once in a while, not a big deal.

I run OS on an SSD, and have my 2 WD Blacks in Raid 0, plus 1 extra storage drive. Bios is set in Raid mode. I guess the way it works is that there are 3 arrays.
I have been running this setup for ~5 years. Originally had the WD Blacks (2x500gb) on a Q9550 setup and migrated it to my current Ivy system.
I have my Raid0 split into 2 partitions and have programs and games on one 500GB partition and do video recording on the other partition, plus video editing.

You just have to make sure your system is stable, make backups to data you can't easily re-install, and use quality drives. It isn't really that big of a deal.

OP give it a try if you want thumb.gif if you make a backup image and decide later you don't want to run Raid0 you can delete the array and put the data image on a single drive and be ready to go.
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instead of buying 2 wd blacks for storage raid0 (personally i'd go with raid1 mirror on those), I'd rather invest into getting a matching SSD that are relatively cheap nowadays and run them in raid0 getting double ssd space and speed as bootable and for all the apps/games/progs. Intel RST 11.5 and up support TRIM in SSD RAID0.
later you can get some good promo deal on fast and big storage mechanical spinner and maybe a big enough external USB 3.0 drive to house periodic backups of all wink.gif

10k rpm sata spinners are totally not worth it nowadays. they only make sense for server platforms as storage arrays (e.g. raid5 or 50), while bootable partition is running off fast SAS (serial attached scsi) drives.
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