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Trying to find a replacement for my much beloved Noctua NF-F12s to match a build I am planning. The Cougar fans come up a lot and match my colors for my planed build perfectly. The temp numbers look great compared to Noctua fans
 
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Cougar CF-V12HPB

 
Both numbers are after about an hour of Prime95 on my i7 950 with a Thermaltake Water 2.0 Extreme. So going by these numbers the Cougars look great and they are until you hear them. The Cougars have a high pitched hum to them compared to the low rumble of the Noctuas and the sound its self is louder. Even at idle they have this high pitched hum. So they end up being louder at a more annoying frequency. Granted they move more air but I have little to no tolerance for computer noise.
 
I'm thinking of trying the Noiseblocker NB-eLoop B12-PS, they are more expensive then the Cougars but I'm willing to pay for performance. They also add white to the mix in my build witch throws off my color scheme a bit but if I switch from orange pastel to white pastel coolant to tie in the fans it should work. Might even be better this way being the orange pastel is a poor match for Gigabyte Orange anyways. I'll just match up the orange in the mobo to orange sleeved cables. 
 
The final build will be using Alphacool UT60 radiators so we are talking about a low fin count per inch. Besides the NB what other fans should I check out? Keeping in mind I would like to stay with PWM fans to let my mobo do the fan speed adjusting as needed for ease of use. 

I know GTs come up a lot but they are not PWM and they will be impossible to fit into my planned builds color scheme. So black and white or all black fans please.
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I bought some Swiftech Helix 120mm radiator fans,. there is a PWM and non-PWM version, here is a link.

http://www.swiftech.com/helix120mm-pwm.aspx

They perform exactly the same as the GT's, their cheaper, and they're the same colour. They also ouytput the same noise (not much) as the GT's

What do you think?
     
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I bought some Swiftech Helix 120mm radiator fans,. there is a PWM and non-PWM version, here is a link.

http://www.swiftech.com/helix120mm-pwm.aspx

They perform exactly the same as the GT's, their cheaper, and they're the same colour. They also ouytput the same noise (not much) as the GT's

What do you think?

Picked up 10 of them when they were 3 or 4 bucks on amazon. Love the fans and they do a good job on my 360 and 240. I got the non-pwm version and run them on a fan controller.
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Picked up 10 of them when they were 3 or 4 bucks on amazon. Love the fans and they do a good job on my 360 and 240. I got the non-pwm version and run them on a fan controller.

The Helix are great fans. I'm running 6 Ap-15's and have been very happy with them and i just installed 5 of the cougar fans in a friends build (360 rad and a 240 rad) and he hasnt had any issues with them "humming"
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I bought some Swiftech Helix 120mm radiator fans,. there is a PWM and non-PWM version, here is a link.

http://www.swiftech.com/helix120mm-pwm.aspx

They perform exactly the same as the GT's, their cheaper, and they're the same colour. They also ouytput the same noise (not much) as the GT's

What do you think?

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Picked up 10 of them when they were 3 or 4 bucks on amazon. Love the fans and they do a good job on my 360 and 240. I got the non-pwm version and run them on a fan controller.

Ill give them a try for sure
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The Helix are great fans. I'm running 6 Ap-15's and have been very happy with them and i just installed 5 of the cougar fans in a friends build (360 rad and a 240 rad) and he hasnt had any issues with them "humming"

The Cougars are not loud by any means but they are louder then the Noctua and its just a little to loud for me at idle.


Besides the Helix want other fans should I keep an eye out for?
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Just recently tested about all the ones just mentioned above.

Nothing quite matches the GTs at 1800RPM, they retain their crown as the best air flow per noise level, but as noted they are not PWM capable and that's a real shame.

Here are the videos of those plus the GT- AP45 for reference. These were done in different batches, but the results of the same GT fan was within less than a 1dbA difference and air flow max was within about 35FPM so close enough to compare across batches.

Just start up several videos and pause them at like air flow levels (Blue meter second from the left). Then you can play/pause/play each fan back to back for a good comparison. Noise level is available in the sound meter, but I would also suggest listening closely and perhaps disregard the noise level all together. Noise level does not necessarily quantify how annoying a noise type is...that's where the audio comes in.

While the GTs outpaced the Noiseblocker e-loops above 1500, I personally prefer the noise quality of the e-loop over the GTs at 1500RPM and under.

The Noctua didn't really do that well on my test bench. Seems to have a pressure harmonic that developes in the blades, motor also has more low pitch grumble than others.

Cougars were ok. I tested vertically and have heard some complain about horizontal sounding different. Not sure, I would pick them over the Noctuas for sure, but they didn't break any low noise records either.

The Swiftech Helix also didn't do all that great at high speed, but they do ok below about 1400RPM. Not included here, but the Helix also for whatever harmonic reason does best in push + pull vs just push. I suspect the blades are too flexible and develop a pressure harmonic at higher pressure levels. In Push + Pull there is enough releif in pressure the harmonic goes away for the most part. The Helix has a good noise level maximum and multiple fans play well together, but their PQ curve is very flat and weak compared to the GT which makes the GT push more air through a radiator better. I still like the Helix even though it didn't do that well in this test because of it's push + pull improvement and good low speed performance. It's no GT, but a nice looking fan with PWM that doesn't break the bank.

Noiseblocker E-Loops also get my vote for best looking fan, very unique fan blade is really nice looking, expensive but nice looking. One of my new favorite fans, it struggles at high speeds, but it has the looks and sound quality I personally like at slow to medium speeds.

Alternatively, Arctic Cooling F12s also look nice and perform well with PWM and are probably the cheapest good PWM fan. Only downside is the low maximum RPM level, but it's plenty fast enough for my noise tolerance.

Some other charts from my round 11:

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I should have mentioned that I am running my Helix fans @ 1300 and in push/pull on XSPC EX rads. Also looked at Yates and the XSPC fans. I just can't justify double the cost for a fan that will only give me a degree or 2 difference. I would rather pick up a bigger rad. As always Martin excellent comparison and much respect.

O and I wear hearing aids so I can say nothing about the fan noise.
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I've been using the Enermax Magma fans and have enjoyed them. I cannot say how they compare to other fans temp-wise with my XSPC RX360 radiator, but I like them as they're very quiet and do what I want them to. Plus the blades pop off for easy cleaning.
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Here is my old round 6 data.

Regarding the Magma, they have good noise quality, but their noise level per air flow was at the bottom of the charts.

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Here is my old round 6 data.

Regarding the Magma, they have good noise quality, but their noise level per air flow was at the bottom of the charts.

Good data!

I found the Magma fan itself to be near silent, the only thing I hear slightly is air flowing through my radiator. I personally can't complain, it's the quietest and least obtrusive sounding setup I've ever used.
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