Originally Posted by strong island 1
Actually the classified allows removal of the thermal limitations and power limitations the same way, with the flip of a switch also. The LN2 bios switch removes a lot of the thermal constraints and limitations. I was able to do 1.35v without throttling on the stock LN2 bios. If you go any higher you need a custom bios. I do agree it sucks you have to buy the evbot to go above 1.35v but it's a really cool device. You can change voltages on the fly during benchmarks. You can control up to 4 gpu's at once. It also works with evga motherboards to oc the cpu. So it is a device that you can use for other things. I don't mean to post about the classified in here but I had to respond to your post. The evbot does show 1.8v as selectable but I would never apply that much volts unless I eventually get an LN2 pot so I can't confirm if 1.8v is really doable.
That being said I am sure the lightning is going to be absolutely amazing also.
At this point, we really have nothing but speculation on how the cards are going to perform. I think that right now, we're all waiting for data. It could be that we have a situation like the 7970 Lightning which had the flaw of not having Dual Link DVI and did not overclock that much better than their other counterparts (although a few did make 1,300 MHz+), but did well on LN2. We could also have a card plagued with issues, like the Asus 7970 Matrix Platinum which had quite a few problems associated with it. Finally, (and I hope) we end up with a situation like the 680 Lightning.
Historically though, it seems things favor MSI Nvidia cards. The past couple of generations (680 Lightning, 580 Lighting Xtreme Edition) have been outstanding cards, while EVGA's 680 Classified did not end up as good.
But yeah, what we really need is data. The only thing I expect right now is that MSI's Twin Frozr to outperform EVGA's ACX.