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hi guys and gals this is going to be my first build so far i have bought every part except my cpu and motherboard i was planning on getting a i5 3570k but haswell just came out i still have to wait till the end of the month to get the cpu and board is haswell worth spending 50 to 70 more and will it overclock as good i dont want to oc that much maybe 4.2 max since im new to overclocking no matter which cpu i get i want to still get a asrock extreme 4 board i know if i get the haswell i will have to get the z87 here is a list of the parts i have already tell me what you think

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO plus 1 oem 212 evo fan so 2 in total for push pull

g-skill 8gb (2x4gb) ddr3 1600mhz sniper memory

Crucial M4 256GB

Seagate Barracuda 1TB

MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB

Cooler Master Storm Scout ATX Mid Tower Case

Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer

Enermax NAXN ADV ETL550AWT 550W 80 PLUS Bronze ATX12V Power Supply w/ Active PFC
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your better off going with a 3570k and try and overclock it to 4.5
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50 bucks for socket 1150 is worth it. You'll be able to upgrade to whatever comes after Haswell, which means you should be future proof for 2-3 years. Plus more resale value if you want to ump to another platform. 1155 is a dead end at the moment, so if availability is not a problem (it isn't in the States at least) always try to go for Haswell.

Plus most Haswell motherboards look quite a bit cooler than their Ivy predecessors.
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4.2 isn't much of an OC on those procs. Almost effortless.
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your better off going with a 3570k and try and overclock it to 4.5
then again I'm new. so id wait for others to comment. but I'm pretty sure if it's just a gaming computer your better off with a 3570k
im about to finish a build with a 3570k at 4.5 and gtx 780's (2) in sli with a 1440p monitor.
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then again I'm new. so id wait for others to comment. but I'm pretty sure if it's just a gaming computer your better off with a 3570k
im about to finish a build with a 3570k at 4.5 and gtx 780's (2) in sli with a 1440p monitor.

I would go along the lines of the others and say that it's never quite enjoyable buying a dead socket. Although 1155 and the 3570k pack a mean punch, unless you can justify buying the old socket by some super savings, always buy the latest and greatest.
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50 bucks for socket 1150 is worth it. You'll be able to upgrade to whatever comes after Haswell, which means you should be future proof for 2-3 years. Plus more resale value if you want to the jump to another platform. 1155 is a dead end at the moment, so if availability is not a problem (it isn't in the States at least) always try to go for Haswell.

Plus most Haswell motherboards look quite a bit cooler than their Ivy predecessors.

Yeah... about that. In 2-3 years we probably won't be using DDR3. DDR4(while delayed) is forthcoming.

Future proofing doesn't work. Save cash and maintaining a more frequent upgrade cycle generally works better.

At the end of the day, if $50 is a small fraction of your budget then go for it. If it's significant, then don't bother it's not night or day.


If you're getting two 780s... drop to 770s, go with a slightly faster CPU and then save the rest for something better.
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I would go along the lines of the others and say that it's never quite enjoyable buying a dead socket. Although 1155 and the 3570k pack a mean punch, unless you can justify buying the old socket by some super savings, always buy the latest and greatest.
yea. i do agree its better to go with new. unlike me i bought my motherboard about a month ago. so I'm stuck but i believe a 3570k at 4.5 will still be able to run anything within the next two years (especially with two 780's). also, by the time my pc is "obsolete" il have enough money to make another. il just pull the two 780's and try and sell it on ebay

my pc is only for gaming
i got my asus p8z77-v mobo for $80...thats a steal biggrin.gif
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You'll be able to upgrade to whatever comes after Haswell, which means you should be future proof for 2-3 years. .

Are we sure of this?
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thanks you guys are alot of help the only thing i was worrying about was if haswell would be having problems since its so new but i think i should get the haswell so would overcolcking haswell be the same as ivy like i said im new to all of this so i would have to rely on a oc video or something ps will all the parts i have be compatible
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