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Originally Posted by Shutterbug View Post

Scrolling through a text document looks horrible? That must be something to do with your computer or video card because I certainly don't have that problem.

People should simply try it themselves. Dell allows returns if you are not happy.

Cheers.

He is referring to the inverse ghosting caused by too much overdrive, which I doubt Dell have "fixed" since they don't seem to consider it an issue, but rather a design choice (albeit an incredibly stupid one).
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post #42 of 56
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Originally Posted by MenacingTuba View Post

Dell will not fix the overshoot issues on their new monitors, a Dell rep confirmed the overdrive issues are intentional n their forums in regards to the 3014 which has the same issues.

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1039925026&postcount=193

PixerPixAn's car test can only show us how a monitor performs with a few pixel transitions, evaluating a display solely on how the car performs is useless.

All of Dell's new monitors (S2x40L/M, U2x13H & 3014) suffer from overshoot (ghosting), as does the U2412 but the U2713H is considerably worse..

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2013/review-dell-u2713h-part14.html#Responsiveness

Look at the second graph with the grey dotted lines and green line. The more the green line deviates from the grey lines the more the display overshoots (ghosts). The U2713H's overshoot is really noticeable. You can see it overshooting in my video review

The U2412 overshoots less

http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2011/review-dell-u2412m-part13.html#Responsiveness

The U2713H is a wide gamut monitor=inaccurate & over-saturated colors in games. You could use the green tinted sRGB mode which has locked color settings and very high input lag, but that would be silly. The game mode has lower lag but uses the displays native, wide gamut, has poor colors and locked color settings.

If you want to upgrade to a 2560x1440 monitor get the ViewSonic VP2770, it is the fastest 60hz 2560x1440 monitor and has less quality control issues than the rest.

Personally I have never noticed Input lag. That being said i have never used any monitor but a dell. For those that believe they can tell the difference between a millisecond more power to you but I'm pretty sure i would struggle to tell the difference between a half second and a second much less a millisecond.

I'm no monitor pro but I do know that the vast vast majority of people gallavanting about how inferior your monitor is compared to theirs are either professional fps gamers at best (unlikely) or waving their épéen around at worse (much more likely)

Personally image quality is king IMO, and the very monitor you speak of has been reviewed as having the best out of the box image hands down.

I'm all for a bit of over saturation if that's what that means. Something looking good to me without needing professional calibration in comparison to whatever the alternative is after paying someone to make my colors a bit less "saturated"?

To wrap things up, it's a great looking monitor with a butt-ton of features. Well built with a killer stand. Dell has been too of the line in professional displays for years, model after model for a reason.

If you think you can tell the difference or the pro outweighs the con on the dell in comparison, rock on. Otherwise best vice anyone can give apart from blowing smoke is to view two next to one another.

All I know is I have never second guessed the 4 I own , I'll be buying a 5th as soon as I can afford it, and the warranty alone coupled with dells customer service leaves nothing to be desired.
post #43 of 56
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Originally Posted by viper133 View Post

Maybe you got the u2713Hb version of the monitor? the latest u2713H shouldnt have the green tint anymore.

2713H is a 2713Hb.....
post #44 of 56
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Originally Posted by Zapirian View Post

Just in the process of sending a U2713H Rev A03 back to Amazon. Overshoot/ghosting and lacking hardware calibration not acceptable.
Have a Qnix QX2710 on its way from South Korea instead. Limited to sRGB but at least I can use it for web/games too without the horrid overshoot of the Dell.

Ouch, mucho downgrade IMO. Ah well, I like to use my monitors to game, I guess I could probably find imperfections in any monitor if that's what I spent my time seeking out. Of course it may have been to such a degree that it was defective. If not, I certainly don't notice anything except a sexy image when running around gaming. Atleast at the native reso with vsync on and factory calibration.

Too little too late but I received one where the contrast was all whacked out and I had almost returned it but going Into the service menu and resetting the display did the trick
post #45 of 56
Didn't spend my time seeking out the imperfection. It was obvious from the start. What I can't understand is why Dell didn't include adjustments for the RTC like other monitors using the same panel. I'd also been through the service menu with the help of a Dell employee to see if there was any adjustment and calibrated it with i1 Display Pro, hardware and software, not just performed a reset. The hardware calibration is also lacking. But as I've already said in a reply the colour reproduction, sharpness and contrast of these displays is great. Just the scrolling through documents and web pages and gaming is sub par for a monitor of its calibre. Some people are happy to overlook this. Good for them. I'll save up and get something better in the end. The Qnix is a stepping stone.
post #46 of 56
Overdrive on the u2713hm seriously needs to be adjusted. I do not notice it in video games ( only when looking at white images such as clouds ). When browsing ( scrolling ) it's very apparent. If dell does not consider this an issue, wow.
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Anyone having issues with chromatic aberration when viewing through glasses? I have -4.00 prescription glasses and anything in my peripheral vision or not viewed 100% through the middle of the lens has red/green edges. Its especially noticeable on text, for example if i'm reading text in the middle of my screen then move my eyes up with out physically moving my head to my browsers bookmark and navigation bar all the text and edges of icons and url bar have red/green edges. Or if viewing large text in a movie or website, like say OVERCLOCK about 7 inches across. If i focus on the C in the middle I can see red/green edges in my perphical vision on the O and K. Is this normal for GB-LEDs or is my monitor broke? My 27" imac and other large monitors don't have this problem.
post #48 of 56
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Originally Posted by Zapirian View Post

Just the scrolling through documents and web pages and gaming is sub par for a monitor of its calibre.
You probably resolved this by now but to anyone wondering about the poor scrolling behavior, its easily resolvable by disabling smooth scrolling in the browser options. I have a Korean monitor (Yamakasi ds270) that uses the same ah-ips panel as the u2713 and suffered from this issue as well. It was unacceptable to me. Googled around and found the fix.
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post #49 of 56
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Anyone having issues with chromatic aberration when viewing through glasses? I have -4.00 prescription glasses and anything in my peripheral vision or not viewed 100% through the middle of the lens has red/green edges. Its especially noticeable on text, for example if i'm reading text in the middle of my screen then move my eyes up with out physically moving my head to my browsers bookmark and navigation bar all the text and edges of icons and url bar have red/green edges. Or if viewing large text in a movie or website, like say OVERCLOCK about 7 inches across. If i focus on the C in the middle I can see red/green edges in my perphical vision on the O and K. Is this normal for GB-LEDs or is my monitor broke? My 27" imac and other large monitors don't have this problem.

I see this to a small extent at the very edges of my glasses with all of my monitors. Any dispersive element like a lens is going to refract different wavelengths of light at different angles. If it happens with your monitor, it will happen with any white light source. It is visible at the edges of your glasses because the lenses are thicker there and the back face of the lens makes a larger angle with the front face, turning it into a prism of sorts.
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I see this to a small extent at the very edges of my glasses with all of my monitors. Any dispersive element like a lens is going to refract different wavelengths of light at different angles. If it happens with your monitor, it will happen with any white light source. It is visible at the edges of your glasses because the lenses are thicker there and the back face of the lens makes a larger angle with the front face, turning it into a prism of sorts.

This is quite a few degrees more then what is normal. I took photos of my 2713h and 2713hm, the difference is very noticeable. I have two 2713h's at the moment and they both do this compaired to the HM

http://imgur.com/a/yvzpj
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