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Poll Results: Which model do you own?

 
  • 3% (14)
    Z87X-UD7 TH
  • 0% (3)
    Z87X-UD5 TH
  • 13% (50)
    Z87X-UD5H
  • 27% (99)
    Z87X-UD4H
  • 25% (91)
    Z87X-UD3H
  • 6% (25)
    Z87X-D3H
  • 1% (4)
    Z87-D3HP/HD3
  • 2% (10)
    Z87M/MX-HD3/D3H
  • 5% (20)
    Sniper Series
  • 13% (48)
    OC Series
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post #1061 of 1852
hi everyone!

im thinking of getting a ud5h and 4570k mid october and, im wondering how the ud5h is treating all the owners in this thread?

any heat issues like their amd line?
is the bios all neat and full of great functions?
any huge problems at all?

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post #1062 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Warl0rdPT View Post

Does anyone know how to differ the new chipset revision (without the USB bug) on a motherboard box?

will there be any C2 sticker like in Asus? will they change the P/N? (Asus changed theirs from M0EAY0 to M0EAY5)

how can I differ the old from the news without actually buying a board and plugging it in?
Anyone?

I contacted gigabyte and the only thing they told me was to make sure I'm using genuine Microsoft and keep all hotfix up to date.... mad.gif

Thats not the type of answer I'm looking for lol
post #1063 of 1852
About updating the BIOS.

I'm getting the entire Haswell system this week here (UD4H motherboard) So i'm going to do an full format c anyways.

1) Is it best to use QFLASH (if thats what I need to use) to acquire the latest BIOS and getting it installed, before installing windows?

2) Or just use the @BIOS software tool, after windows has been installed?
-Should I wait to install the chipset driver, untill the BIOS has been updated?

Another thing I dont understand. I checked the motherboard site of the BIOS
http://www.gigabyte.dk/products/page/mb/ga-z87x-ud4hrev_10/download/bios

It says "The USB driver must be updated in advanced"

Does that mean I just have to install the "Intel USB 3.0 driver" before updating the BIOS if going with option number 2?
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post #1064 of 1852
Hi everyody,
i have Gigabyte UD4H for a week now and so far it is a nice Board.
I started to overclock and now I have two minor Issues.

1.
With UD4H and CPUZ 1,65, it will show only the manual Vcore set in BIos.
And I have : Advanced Power Plan 5% min, Eist + C3 enabled, Turbo auto.
Only Hwinfo is showing correct/dynamic Vcore like it should.
With my other Giga D3HP it showed correct Vcore when overclocked in CPUZ1.65.
I can use Hwinfo if no other solution available. But I would rather have CPUZ 1.65 showing dynamic Vcore.

2.
At stock uncore ratio goes up to x38 like it should.
If I set the uncore ratio of my 4670K to default multiplier x34, my uncore ratio will go up to x40 when overclocked to 4500 Mhz.
Shouldn't it only rise up to x38 (3800Mhz) according to Turbo specs ??
Edited by Alxx - 9/3/13 at 10:55am
post #1065 of 1852
wendigo4700. I can shed some light on your questions as I had the same ones and called GB to confirm.

Lot's of people say to never use @BIOS unless the bios file is to large to use Q-flash. I myself have never used Q-flash, only @BIOS with no problems.

During a phone conversation with a GB tech about bios flashing I was told to use @BIOS. I specifically mentioned the reported problems with it and was told as long as the bios file is downloaded in advance instead of using the @BIOS auto download feature during the flashing it is the recommended and superior method. Asked what method the tech uses on his personal machines the answer was @BIOS.

The tech said to Install windows using the bios that comes on the board. You can then install the chipset drivers and all the other drivers too before updating the bios.

The GB web site wording about the USB 3 drivers is confusing, more than likely due to translation. The last word should be advance not advanced. In any case the tech said they mean to install the USB 3 drivers before any bios update. A reason why you would not want to use Q-flash before you install windows. You can install the USB drivers when you install the chipset drivers as stated above.

The only debate I see in the tech recommendations is whether to use @BIOS or Q-flash. All I can tell you is @BIOS worked for me and it's what GB recommends.
post #1066 of 1852
Quote:
Originally Posted by wendigo4700 View Post

About updating the BIOS.

I'm getting the entire Haswell system this week here (UD4H motherboard) So i'm going to do an full format c anyways.

1) Is it best to use QFLASH (if thats what I need to use) to acquire the latest BIOS and getting it installed, before installing windows?

2) Or just use the @BIOS software tool, after windows has been installed?
-Should I wait to install the chipset driver, untill the BIOS has been updated?

Another thing I dont understand. I checked the motherboard site of the BIOS
http://www.gigabyte.dk/products/page/mb/ga-z87x-ud4hrev_10/download/bios

It says "The USB driver must be updated in advanced"

Does that mean I just have to install the "Intel USB 3.0 driver" before updating the BIOS if going with option number 2?

The easiest thing to do is just download the BIOS file, put it on a thumb drive, and then flash it from within the BIOS.

It shouldn't matter when you update the BIOS, or whether it is before or after the chipset drivers.

And I don't think anyone knows what that USB driver comment is supposed to mean. I flashed with both Win 7 and Win 8 installs and nothing ever changed with the USB.
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Originally Posted by Alxx View Post

Hi everyody,
i have Gigabyte UD4H for a week now and so far it is a nice Board.
I started to overclock and now I have two minor Issues.

1.
With UD4H and CPUZ 1,65, it will show only the manual Vcore set in BIos.
And I have : Advanced Power Plan 5% min, Eist + C3 enabled, Turbo auto.
Only Hwinfo is showing correct/dynamic Vcore like it should.
With my other Giga D3HP it showed correct Vcore when overclocked in CPUZ1.65.
I can use Hwinfo if no other solution available. But I would rather have CPUZ 1.65 showing dynamic Vcore.

2.
At stock uncore ratio goes up to x38 like it should.
If I set the uncore ratio of my 4670K to default multiplier x34, my uncore ratio will go up to x40 when overclocked to 4500 Mhz.
Shouldn't it only rise up to x38 (3800Mhz) according to Turbo specs ??

Not sure about #2, but #1 is a known issue with CPU-Z 1.65.x. If you want CPU-Z to show the voltage, you'll have to use 1.64.0.
post #1067 of 1852
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Originally Posted by wbear View Post

wendigo4700. I can shed some light on your questions as I had the same ones and called GB to confirm.

Lot's of people say to never use @BIOS unless the bios file is to large to use Q-flash. I myself have never used Q-flash, only @BIOS with no problems.

During a phone conversation with a GB tech about bios flashing I was told to use @BIOS. I specifically mentioned the reported problems with it and was told as long as the bios file is downloaded in advance instead of using the @BIOS auto download feature during the flashing it is the recommended and superior method. Asked what method the tech uses on his personal machines the answer was @BIOS.

The tech said to Install windows using the bios that comes on the board. You can then install the chipset drivers and all the other drivers too before updating the bios.

The GB web site wording about the USB 3 drivers is confusing, more than likely due to translation. The last word should be advance not advanced. In any case the tech said they mean to install the USB 3 drivers before any bios update. A reason why you would not want to use Q-flash before you install windows. You can install the USB drivers when you install the chipset drivers as stated above.

The only debate I see in the tech recommendations is whether to use @BIOS or Q-flash. All I can tell you is @BIOS worked for me and it's what GB recommends.

Cool thanks. I'll just use the BIOS software tool, once windows is installed, along with the chipsetdriver + usb 3.0 driver.

Btw If I were to use QFLASH before installing windows, do you (or anyone else) know if I should extract all 3 files into an USB key?

Because the downloaded bios.exe file contains "Eiflash.exe" + "autoexec.bat" + the BIOS version itself once extracted.
But I guess that method doesnt work, unless I somehow get "intel usb 3.0" preinstalled first?
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post #1068 of 1852
If you flash from within the BIOS, you just need the BIOS file itself on a FAT32 thumb drive.
post #1069 of 1852
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If you flash from within the BIOS, you just need the BIOS file itself on a FAT32 thumb drive.

I just formatted my USB key in FAT32.
But you are saying I only need to extract the BIOS itself to it, and not the two other files also? Which were called Eiflash.exe and autoexec.bat

How did you flash your BIOS? As you have UD3H, while I'm getting UD4H. So they're like 98% the same.
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post #1070 of 1852
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Originally Posted by wendigo4700 View Post

I just formatted my USB key in FAT32.
But you are saying I only need to extract the BIOS itself to it, and not the two other files also? Which were called Eiflash.exe and autoexec.bat

How did you flash your BIOS? As you have UD3H, while I'm getting UD4H. So they're like 98% the same.

Correct, the other two files are only for flashing from DOS (and I don't even know if that still works). I've done several flashes from within the BIOS (whatever that utility is called - I guess it is QFlash). I haven't done it from inside Windows because the BIOS method works easily. It also lets you save the profiles to the USB drive before you flash, which is handy.
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