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post #1661 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Oubadah View Post

The last few pages are making me think twice about purchasing. I don't want to go from a buggy Asus board to a buggy Gigabyte board. The "works fine for a month then suddenly..." is exactly the kind of thing that's driving me insane at the moment. Is it too much to ask for a board like the ~5 I had during the LGA775 era when they just worked.
You probably shouldn't even consider my experiences as I'm probably an extreme case....I install/uninstall programs, drivers, and firmware a lot. So I don't necessarily leave things alone when it's stable. I love to tinker but I have enough confidence in my ability to get things working after I "fix" them. biggrin.gif

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post #1662 of 1852
I must say this kind of "small" annoyances are in fact for me really frustrating.

I have the current UD5H setup with an i5 since september 2013. Before that I have been using a Gigabyte board with KT400 chipset and a Barton inside. I have had that board since ~2003 (yes, that is over 9 full years). I must say I had ZERO problems with that board. Everything I put inside over the time (and I have put inside many things) has just worked.

Nowadays, this kind of tweaking seems mandatory. I don't mind doing it, since I can also work my way around problems, and gives me a issue to chew on in my spare time. But the question is: why should I have to work my way around problems?

I read just before some comment on this thread: somebody's graphics card does not work in main PCI X port. Somebody else replies: use PCI X gen 2.0. What!!!!!????? How is this acceptable that you have a PCIX gen 3.0 video card, running it in a compatible MB, and it still does not work because of some BIOS bug or strange incompatibility.

And don't even get me started on memory issues.... I bought 1600 MHz memory sticks, because the processor is rated like that by Intel. Intel says it works with 4 sticks at that speed in dual channel config. Then IT MUST WORK at default values, period. What I read that Intel is "picky with memory configuration"..... blahblahblah..... get a different memory stick, does this stick work with this processor, blahblahblah..... unacceptable, simply unacceptable.

What amazes me even more is that people (including me) are putting up with this.

Sorry for the angry post. I don't mean to upset anybody. But I just have to blow some steam.
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post #1663 of 1852
And another thing (or several):

Of course this is not Gigabyte related; this is related to the whole outfit: MB manufacturers, GFX manufacturers, SSD manufacturers, memory manufacturers, they all have their small or big piece of fault.

But, the MB and GFX manufacturers are the worst; the web is bursting with this kind of problems which we SHOULD NOT HAVE.

The support from these guys (MB and GFX manufacturers) is second hand to say the least: they "work around the clock to output fixes and updates"; but they do this for RELEASED PRODUCTS, that should not have such basic problems as "ehhh.... USB 3.0 does not work out of the box for some mysterious reason"

Furthermore, I would like to see a real serious change log on all these fixes. I see many posts, especially from manufacturers representatives everywhere: "try this new BIOS", "try this new BETA BIOS", "see if it works". I say again: What!!!!!???? Am I supposed to just try a new BIOS without even questioning whether this new BIOS has a genuine chance to fix my problem??? What does this new BIOS do for me? what does it improve? in what way it improves? NO DATA.

This is so wrong in so many ways.

PS: this is my last post on this subject. Enough steam has been blown biggrin.gif
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post #1664 of 1852
Glad to see I'm not the only one having issues...

Just built a system with a Z87X-UD4H and i7-4770k. Everything installed fine and was going well till I attempted some overclocking. The 4.3ghz mobo preset booted up fine, but was running too hot, so I tried a lower OC. That wasn't liked, and ended up in a re-boot cycle. Eventually got that sorted by flashing to the latest F8 bios. However since then, the computer has randomly switched off 3 times (and then started itself up) whilst doing fairly normal things. On the first 2 occasions, I was installing something from disc, which had me thinking it might be related to the optical drive. However the 3rd time it switched off whilst copying files from a usb drive and browsing the web. There's no indication in the windows events log; the debug code goes to "AO" (all normal, I think), and everything else appears ok.

Really stumped here, and somewhat annoyed as there's nothing obvious.

Specs are as follows:
Corsair AX860 psu
Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H
Intel i7-4770K cooled by Phanteks enormous CPU heatsink (temps are all fine)
Teamgroup Vulcan 2x4GB 2400Mhz RAM (using XMP profile)
Samsung 840 250Gb boot drive + WD green 2Tb storage drive
MSI 290 Gaming
LG blu-ray drive
Creative Soundblaster Z soundcard

Any suggestions appreciated! Thanks!
post #1665 of 1852
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Originally Posted by st3f View Post

Glad to see I'm not the only one having issues...

Just built a system with a Z87X-UD4H and i7-4770k. Everything installed fine and was going well till I attempted some overclocking. The 4.3ghz mobo preset booted up fine, but was running too hot, so I tried a lower OC. That wasn't liked, and ended up in a re-boot cycle. Eventually got that sorted by flashing to the latest F8 bios. However since then, the computer has randomly switched off 3 times (and then started itself up) whilst doing fairly normal things. On the first 2 occasions, I was installing something from disc, which had me thinking it might be related to the optical drive. However the 3rd time it switched off whilst copying files from a usb drive and browsing the web. There's no indication in the windows events log; the debug code goes to "AO" (all normal, I think), and everything else appears ok.

Really stumped here, and somewhat annoyed as there's nothing obvious.

Specs are as follows:
Corsair AX860 psu
Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H
Intel i7-4770K cooled by Phanteks enormous CPU heatsink (temps are all fine)
Teamgroup Vulcan 2x4GB 2400Mhz RAM (using XMP profile)
Samsung 840 250Gb boot drive + WD green 2Tb storage drive
MSI 290 Gaming
LG blu-ray drive
Creative Soundblaster Z soundcard

Any suggestions appreciated! Thanks!

Sorry not clear: Did you reset bios to optimized defaults? I really wouldn't reccomend OC especially with 4770k without manually playing with at least the basic settings (locking uncore/ring @33, 1.15v, setting vrin llc turbo, playing with core multiplier, vcore, vrin)
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But, the MB and GFX manufacturers are the worst; the web is bursting with this kind of problems which we SHOULD NOT HAVE.

I agree, i still can't use pci-e 3.0 and i've had the board for 9 months now. Thankfully it's completely irrelevant for performance, even with SLI as 2.0x8 is more than enough bandwidth for every card on the market today; actual performance gains from 3.0x8 doubling bandwidth are very marginal on tight benchmarks at best, from what i've seen
Edited by Cyro999 - 3/11/14 at 9:01am
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Sorry not clear: Did you reset bios to optimized defaults? I really wouldn't reccomend OC especially with 4770k without manually playing with at least the basic settings (locking uncore/ring @33, 1.15v, setting vrin llc turbo, playing with core multiplier, vcore, vrin)

Sry, indeed I wasn't clear - I did reset the BIOS, after which I flashed to new BIOS and kept the defaults. Problem has occurred since, and presumably is therefore unrelated to overclocking. For some reason I thought I'd include that as background... rolleyes.gif
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I have only seen that behavior with unstable clocks (particularly, vcore or vrin being too low), never at stock
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I have only seen that behavior with unstable clocks (particularly, vcore or vrin being too low), never at stock

I've seen one or two others mention the same issue, though on other forums and with different hardware. Mine is definitely all at stock, with the exception of the memory which is on the XMP profile. Am trying running the memory at the motherboard's default - might be it doesn't like it.
post #1669 of 1852
XMP messes with volts such as system agent sometimes, it's also overclocked IMC, not stock
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XMP messes with volts such as system agent sometimes

Is there any actual evidence of this anywhere? My Asus board gives report of all BIOS changes made when you hit save and exit. If I enable XMP and save and exit the BIOS, the only things listed in that report are freq, timings (8-8-8-24) and RAM voltage. I never noticed it changing anything else on my Gigabyte boards either, but they didn't have the helpful list so I might have missed something.
Edited by Oubadah - 3/12/14 at 4:56am
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