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Poll Results: Which model do you own?

 
  • 3% (14)
    Z87X-UD7 TH
  • 0% (3)
    Z87X-UD5 TH
  • 13% (50)
    Z87X-UD5H
  • 27% (99)
    Z87X-UD4H
  • 25% (91)
    Z87X-UD3H
  • 6% (25)
    Z87X-D3H
  • 1% (4)
    Z87-D3HP/HD3
  • 2% (10)
    Z87M/MX-HD3/D3H
  • 5% (20)
    Sniper Series
  • 13% (48)
    OC Series
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post #91 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit85 View Post

Ok having some issues with my 4770k and Z87X-UD4. I'm getting a random BSOD, I think its RAM related, I tested it with Memtest86 and it came back no errors. Can it still be RAM?

Edit- turns out I have BIOS F3 newest Is F5, well see if this fixes


In the mean time what driver do I need for "PCI Simple Communications Controller"?

What amount of ram, how many sticks and what brand/model?

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post #92 of 1852
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post

Still getting a lot of freezes when entering or using BIOS. Debating whether I should try the F6E beta BIOS.

Anyone using Samsung low voltage ram? If so, what kind of freq and timings can you get? Not sure what kind of values I should be using pushing past 2133.
Are you overclocking? The BIOS puts a decent load on the CPU and memory and GPU so it could be related to that or just you need to reflash the BIOS. I was able to easily boot at 2666mhz, no issues, stability prob 2400 maybe 2600, you can prob get away with auto timings.
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Originally Posted by NoodleGTS View Post

First pass at overclocking today. Not bad... fairly effortless 4.5Ghz. I'm up to 10 passes now, still stable. Screenshot is from earlier.

That is better than before. I saw some retails doing only 4.2. Over the weekend i was at the GBT OC lab and some guys went out and bought some CPUs, some couldn't even validate 5ghz some could do 5.3ghz, it is really crazy luck with these CPUs it seems frown.gif Maybe Intel needs to update their microcode better.
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Originally Posted by Apolladan View Post

Anyone using adaptive/auto voltage for overclocking? Obviously, you wouldn't try to test stability with it since it would push voltages to like 1.4+ but if you find a good OC @ 1.2 volts, wouldn't it be smart to leave it at auto so that you can idle at less than 1 volt? I'm assuming that the FIVR and digital power delivery means the auto voltage is much smarter than the Z77 generation.
You can also use offset OC vcore voltage.
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

FWIW, on my UD3H, even when I set a manual fixed voltage the measurement test points still show the voltage going down at idle.  So I'm not sure what's going on.  I tried offset and the voltage was what I expected under normal loads (1.33V) but as soon as I ran IBT the voltage jumped to 1.43V.  So offset doesn't sound like a great idea until we know exactly when it is going to kick up like that.
The read point you used was labeled what? VIN or VCOre? VIN works off SVID so it will change if you leave it on auto.
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This was the Windows install from hell. Replaced my Z77 UD5H with Z87 UD5H, and spent the weekend borking Samsung SSD's....well, not destroying them literally but I finally got Win 7 to install on one of them. Even the Samsung utility would not secure erase them as they are "frozen", what ever that means. Of my 3 SSD's I have two back working now but it will probably take loading Parted Magic again and wiping the third one again before it's usable.
I went through this same crap with some Corsair SSD's last year.
Procedure:
Go to install Windows and it says it can't install to the disk.
Drop back and use DISKPART to clean and make a new partition.
Try to install Windows. Starts unpacking files and gets to reboot stage.
Reboots to the install disk instead of into Windows.
and on and on and on and on and on.
Several times throughout the process I used Parted Magic to wipe the disks. Finally when Windows does install you have no idea why or what was different that time around. Weird!

Also it seems the Z87 is doing the same thing as my Z77, that is when you attach up 6 or 7 drives it seems to confuse either the bios or Windows and sometimes makes booting a chore, with me loading optimized defaults often. Brand new SATA data cables, brand new (made by me) SATA power cables. What's up with this? Could be I'm to blame but I had the same thing going on with Z77 from time to time.

No overclocking yet, still working on the rig. Sorry I wrote a book here...... smile.gif
Yea Z87 still is pretty new I am sure Intel will improve their RAID and stuff, but they are also trying a lot of new power saving stuff which might hurt it, for instance the PCH only is 4.1W TDP while on Z77 it was 6.7W, how do you triple SATA6G ports, add 2 more USb 3.0, keep the same number of PCI-E(disable 2 when using max SATA and USB3) and increase support for most everything, yet cut down your TDP? lol.
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit85 View Post

Ok having some issues with my 4770k and Z87X-UD4. I'm getting a random BSOD, I think its RAM related, I tested it with Memtest86 and it came back no errors. Can it still be RAM?

Edit- turns out I have BIOS F3 newest Is F5, well see if this fixes


In the mean time what driver do I need for "PCI Simple Communications Controller"?

F3 BIOSes came out a long time ago, F5s about a week or two before launch, F6s should be out soon. PCI Simple Communications Controller I believe you need to Install Intel ME(management engine). Time to put the UD4H back on the test bed again.
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post #93 of 1852
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The read point you used was labeled what? VIN or VCOre? VIN works off SVID so it will change if you leave it on auto.
I was measuring the Vcore points.
post #94 of 1852
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Originally Posted by xendrome View Post

What amount of ram, how many sticks and what brand/model?
4x 4gb Gskill 2133, the new BIOS seems to have it fixed
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F3 BIOSes came out a long time ago, F5s about a week or two before launch, F6s should be out soon. PCI Simple Communications Controller I believe you need to Install Intel ME(management engine). Time to put the UD4H back on the test bed again.

Thanks, like I said above the BSOD seems to be fixed by bios. Happy days,


The only other issue with my RAM is its rated for 9-11-10-28 but CPUz shows it running at 9-11-13-28, not super sure how big of a deal that is.
post #95 of 1852
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So which one did you measure? There are both sets of points...
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit85 View Post

4x 4gb Gskill 2133, the new BIOS seems to have it fixed
Thanks, like I said above the BSOD seems to be fixed by bios. Happy days,


The only other issue with my RAM is its rated for 9-11-10-28 but CPUz shows it running at 9-11-13-28, not super sure how big of a deal that is.
great to hear! Its prob not an issue at all, but those are some odd timings either way. You can go into the UEFI and change the timings. Manual timings and memory multiplier will ALWAYs override XMP, so if you increase the divider most XMP timings will be changed automatically.Just to check you only had the bdos when you had the memory set higher than default(with xmp), right?
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post #96 of 1852
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So which one did you measure? There are both sets of points...
great to hear! Its prob not an issue at all, but those are some odd timings either way. You can go into the UEFI and change the timings. Manual timings and memory multiplier will ALWAYs override XMP, so if you increase the divider most XMP timings will be changed automatically.Just to check you only had the bdos when you had the memory set higher than default(with xmp), right?

Ah, I spoke too soon, BSOD a few minutes ago. I haven't don't a ton of testing yet besides memtest86. I just turned down the ram to 1600 and Ill see if this stops the BSODs. If it does i'll RMA the RAM. Strange that Memtest86 shows no errors though
post #97 of 1852
Sin, in your original post you mentioned corrupted ME, how would one fix that?

I'm currently runnig the 4770K on the UD4H stable with 4.8 @ 1.248vcore peaking into the very low 90's in Real Temp, and averaging 74.2C between all 4 cores according to AIDA64 Extreme's thermal diagnostics. This is on a Swiftech H220 push config.

I am concerned though...at one point I distinctively remember having the ability to adjust offset voltages, but only once. Now its permanently locked out for me, along with some other voltages, and is also detecting mass storage devices in the bios but unable to read them if I select Q-Flash or try to select a file to change the background. This was happening on F5 and F6c. All of it functioned correctly at some point, and I think it might have been when I was originally using the F3 bios?
Edited by adamlee05 - 6/10/13 at 4:29pm
post #98 of 1852
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Originally Posted by Fahrenheit85 View Post

Ah, I spoke too soon, BSOD a few minutes ago. I haven't don't a ton of testing yet besides memtest86. I just turned down the ram to 1600 and Ill see if this stops the BSODs. If it does i'll RMA the RAM. Strange that Memtest86 shows no errors though
IMO id take a look at your PSU. BTW what BDOS are you getting? what is the code? Please fill out your rig builder it is always hard to tell what hardware people have.

Also don't set the memory multiplier, just set the memory to auto, or just load optimized defaults. Are you loading XMP? Did you run memtest with the memory at 24x? Did you run memtest in windows or in dos?
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Sin, in your original post you mentioned corrupted ME, how would one fix that?

I'm currently the 4770K on the UD4H stable with 4.8 @ 1.248vcore peaking into the very low 90's in Real Temp, and averaging 74.2C between all 4 cores according to AIDA64 Extreme's thermal diagnostics.this is on a Swiftech H220 push config.

I am concerned though...at one point I distinctively remember having the ability to adjust offset voltages, but only once. Now its permanently locked out for me, along with some other voltages, and is also detecting mass storage devices in the bios but unable to read them if I select Flash or try to select a file to change the background. This was happening on F5 and F6c. All of it functioned correctly at some point, and I think it might have been when I was originally using the F3 bios?
for offset you need to set the vcore to "normal" you can type it in just select the fields with the keyboard and not the mouse. Selecting the field options with a mouse int he voltage menu will not allow you to type in the voltages, only to select with slider or scroll down. TO fix the ME you just flash the BIOS, it only happened once and when I got one of the boards.

Also if one is going to use the BCLk dividers they should do this before setting other settings. If your drives are dissapearing what controller are they on? Intel?
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post #99 of 1852
I was measuring Vcore, Sin - I don't know what happened with my post. I also checked VIN but I think it was what I had it set for all the time (1.9V manually). Vcore went down at idle.
post #100 of 1852
I'm assuming so. I've just been using the front panel 3.0 from the start. Originally it would allow me to read them in Q-flash and file select for the background, and they still display as boot able options even in the bios. All works normally at F12 boot select and windows. I haven't tried the rear ports yet as it definitely worked on the front before and as such it has me trying to get it working correctly again.
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