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laugh all you want. the 670 is no better than the 7950, especially when price is considered. you don't need to oc the 7950 for 1080 much less 1050.

about the op . . . op was about to invest on an unbalanced system. that is the point. not whether or not the the 670 or the 7950 is better.

so, help the op make a decision.

edit: nvm, i think the op has made up his/her mind.
If that's what you were trying to say, why didn't you just say it? I never said the 670 was "better" than the 7950, I said that it has better performance. I also said that it costs more and requires more power, hence why it is more comparable to the 7970. Obviously, if the 7950 provides the performance you want, there is no point spending extra to get the 670.

As for the unbalanced system, that's somewhat debatable (again, I've already said this). OP, it depends on how satisfied you are with your current performance and how you'd rather spend money. By getting a new GPU now you will spend more money in total than waiting until you upgrade your CPU and getting both at once, but if you want some kind of performance boost right now then that will definitely give you one.
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If that's what you were trying to say, why didn't you just say it? I never said the 670 was "better" than the 7950, I said that it has better performance. I also said that it costs more and requires more power, hence why it is more comparable to the 7970. Obviously, if the 7950 provides the performance you want, there is no point spending extra to get the 670.

As for the unbalanced system, that's somewhat debatable (again, I've already said this). OP, it depends on how satisfied you are with your current performance and how you'd rather spend money. By getting a new GPU now you will spend more money in total than waiting until you upgrade your CPU and getting both at once, but if you want some kind of performance boost right now then that will definitely give you one.

the 670 does not perform better than the 7950. the advantages of the 670 over the 7950 are cuda and power efficiency.
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the 670 does not perform better than the 7950. the advantages of the 670 over the 7950 are cuda and power efficiency.






http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/12/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-670-2gb-review/3

Power wise:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/05/10/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-2gb-review/8
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/39153-nvidia-geforce-gtx-670/?page=11

Performance wise, the 670 definitely comes out ahead. Power wise, obviously I haven't given as many sources but it seems there's not much to choose between the two. The 7950 comes out slightly in the lead, though. So why are you saying that the 670 is more power efficient and does not perform any better? That's quite far from the truth.
post #14 of 22
If he is overclocking his card the 7950 is the better choice. if he does not wish to overclock then he should get a 670.
post #15 of 22
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If he is overclocking his card the 7950 is the better choice. if he does not wish to overclock then he should get a 670.
Yeah, although at 1680x1050, even a stock 7950 is going to fly, as rdr said earlier.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/12/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-670-2gb-review/3

Power wise:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/05/10/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-2gb-review/8
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/39153-nvidia-geforce-gtx-670/?page=11

Performance wise, the 670 definitely comes out ahead. Power wise, obviously I haven't given as many sources but it seems there's not much to choose between the two. The 7950 comes out slightly in the lead, though. So why are you saying that the 670 is more power efficient and does not perform any better? That's quite far from the truth.

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12.4 and 12.8

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if i have no clue . . . i'll resort to that, too. but does it help the op?

just to give you an idea how outdated those reviews are . . .

4AA


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No he meant that those are some ancient drivers, 12.11 gave 7950/70 significant boost overall making 7970GHz the best single gpu (at the time) and 7950 (almost) equivalent to GTX670.

This is probably the most recent vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQAbBU43mpo, every card has been overclocked (7950@1100/1575 and 670 +200/+250) to easily achievable amounts. Situation would probably be the same if we were comparing a stock 7950 vs a stock 670.
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post #20 of 22
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if i have no clue . . . i'll resort to that, too. but does it help the op?

just to give you an idea how outdated those reviews are . . .

4AA

AMD and Nvidia both improve performance with their drivers. Clearly the reviews weren't comparing modern 670 drivers to old 7950 drivers, so your point is pretty stupid. It's hard to find recent benchmark results that compare a variety of games, so instead here are some from more recently released games:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/03/15/crysis-3-performance-analysis/5
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/metro_last_light_graphics_performance_review_benchmark,6.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/20/tomb_raider_video_card_performance_iq_review/4#.Ua-T80DvtMF

I don't get why you keep making nonsense up. The 670 is placed higher up the scale than the 7950, which is why it offers better performance, why it costs more, and why it perhaps uses more power (not looked into the power side of things in great detail though).

I'm not sure why you've provided a Crysis 2 result since none of my images/links were from Crysis 2...
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No he meant that those are some ancient drivers, 12.11 gave 7950/70 significant boost overall making 7970GHz the best single gpu (at the time) and 7950 (almost) equivalent to GTX670.

This is probably the most recent vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQAbBU43mpo, every card has been overclocked (7950@1100/1575 and 670 +200/+250) to easily achievable amounts. Situation would probably be the same if we were comparing a stock 7950 vs a stock 670.
12.11 increased the FPS results from the cards but wrecked the frame times, which is why they released follow-up drivers to fix the frame times, on average reducing the FPS. All of the results I posted are from post-12.11 drivers, at least as far as I know.

As for the video, personally I don't like the way that Linus only provides overclocked results as I like to have an idea of the minimum performance you can get from cards at their stock clocks, but it has already been said that the 7950 is a better overclocker so it's not surprising that it pushes past the 670 once you overclock them both a reasonable amount.
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