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post #11 of 23
i just see one problem from my experience.. the heat genereated by the board / cpu / psu and GPU will raise and
provide the 240mm radiator with warm(er) air.. especially in summer this might give you some higher temps
to some headache about it..

"to be honest now days WC is more about aesthetics than actual performance gains" yes and no.. read what i wrote (;

@op
if you dont need the lower harddisk places, i´d take them out. from what i see on the pic your tower is sligltly similar to mine
I placed my radiator at the bottom with 4 fans push/pull so fresh cold air goes thru the radi and then helps to get rif of
some heat in the tower.

heat rises, thats the physical problem, otherwise i would not have to write what i write wink.gif

also, if one 240 should not be enough, you could place one additional 12 at the rear end where the white fan is
in the picture... hope this helps a bit.
post #12 of 23
I think it depends on which 9000 series card you are looking to get.

I think 360mm is of course better than 240mm, but in my experience, a decent 240mm and some AP-14 or AP-15 Gentle Typhoons will be plenty to keep a Sandy or Ivy cool + a 150W GPU and you'd be able to overclock them fine.

So an 8870 would be ok, an 8950 possible too but then you have less overclocking room available.

On my mini-rig, I have a 5850 (150W) o/c to 900MHz and 3570K to 4.4Ghz, both voltages are pretty much stock (+0.015v and +0.005v, 1%), I have AP-15s on a 120mm rad, and only the PSU as an exhaust fan. All in the smallest case I could squeeze this into and the CPU and GPU have never gone above 60 degrees on that.

Sure if pumped the voltages up a lot more and got an extra 100MHz it would generate a lot more heat and it would maybe be at 80 degrees but still be ok.

So I guess the decisions with small radiators is based off what you want to do. If you want to overclock the best GPU available to the max and don't care about power bills... you need a bigger rad. If you are happy with a good compromise between power consumption, heat and performance then you will be fine.

Before you pull the trigger, make sure you double-check with everyone on here if you are unsure!

Cheers

DB
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Originally Posted by smex View Post

i just see one problem from my experience.. the heat genereated by the board / cpu / psu and GPU will raise and
provide the 240mm radiator with warm(er) air.. especially in summer this might give you some higher temps
to some headache about it..

"to be honest now days WC is more about aesthetics than actual performance gains" yes and no.. read what i wrote (;

@op
if you dont need the lower harddisk places, i´d take them out. from what i see on the pic your tower is sligltly similar to mine
I placed my radiator at the bottom with 4 fans push/pull so fresh cold air goes thru the radi and then helps to get rif of
some heat in the tower.

heat rises, thats the physical problem, otherwise i would not have to write what i write wink.gif

also, if one 240 should not be enough, you could place one additional 12 at the rear end where the white fan is
in the picture... hope this helps a bit.

Actually that image is from the XL case and i have the original R2 which is tiny tongue.gif


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Originally Posted by Del Boy View Post

I think it depends on which 9000 series card you are looking to get.

I think 360mm is of course better than 240mm, but in my experience, a decent 240mm and some AP-14 or AP-15 Gentle Typhoons will be plenty to keep a Sandy or Ivy cool + a 150W GPU and you'd be able to overclock them fine.

So an 8870 would be ok, an 8950 possible too but then you have less overclocking room available.

On my mini-rig, I have a 5850 (150W) o/c to 900MHz and 3570K to 4.4Ghz, both voltages are pretty much stock (+0.015v and +0.005v, 1%), I have AP-15s on a 120mm rad, and only the PSU as an exhaust fan. All in the smallest case I could squeeze this into and the CPU and GPU have never gone above 60 degrees on that.

Sure if pumped the voltages up a lot more and got an extra 100MHz it would generate a lot more heat and it would maybe be at 80 degrees but still be ok.

So I guess the decisions with small radiators is based off what you want to do. If you want to overclock the best GPU available to the max and don't care about power bills... you need a bigger rad. If you are happy with a good compromise between power consumption, heat and performance then you will be fine.

Before you pull the trigger, make sure you double-check with everyone on here if you are unsure!

Cheers

DB

Will get the highest end single gpu card unless AMD comes up with something like Titan for 1000+ so not that tongue.gif

Anyhow i thought about it and decided to wait untill i get a new case, this one is just tiny ^_^
Been looking at the Shinobi XL, NZXT 810 and Corsair 800D.

Thanks to everyone who posted thumb.gif
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Should look at the case labs Case!!!!!
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Should look at the case labs Case!!!!!

I did and they're amazing but unfortunately i'd have to pay stupid amounts of shipping and taxes in order to get one mad.gif
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Can you draw you the bluepring of how / where your wc parts will
be added to your case and upload it here again?!

put a 120 rad at the bottom of the case.
post #17 of 23
You can fit a 360mm rad in the top of the Corsair 800D. Or you can mod it and lose the top two 5.25" bays and fit a 480mm rad.

Kudos to Matthew Sant / Saate for this - click here

I know what I'd do! biggrin.gif

DB
post #18 of 23
Damn, didnt see the slight difference that fast biggrin.gif
Ok you could get a new tower of course or mod your existing one..
I´m not sure if i´d get the 800D.. maybe some cheaper tower will
be sufficient too.
post #19 of 23
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Well i went a bit crazy and built something i'd want for now:

Case: Corsair 800D
CPU Block: Swiftech Apogee HD
GPU Block: EK 7970 + EK Backplate(placeholders)
Pump: Alphacool VPP655 Single
Pump top: EK EK-D5 X-Top
Radiator Top: NexXxoS UT60 360
Radiator Bottom: NexXxoS UT60 240
Res: Phobya Balancer 150 Gold
Tubing: Primochill 19/13 Black

Fittings:
EK-PSC Pressure Black * ~15
EK-CSQ Adapter 90° * 5-10
EK-PSC Adapter 45° * 5-10

Totals would be around 800€

Although i now have my eyes on the Fractal Arc XL which i might get instead.
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=116

Released in late july/august so i think i'll wait for it rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Jiiks View Post

Well i went a bit crazy and built something i'd want for now:

Case: Corsair 800D
CPU Block: Swiftech Apogee HD
GPU Block: EK 7970 + EK Backplate(placeholders)
Pump: Alphacool VPP655 Single
Pump top: EK EK-D5 X-Top
Radiator Top: NexXxoS UT60 360
Radiator Bottom: NexXxoS UT60 240
Res: Phobya Balancer 150 Gold
Tubing: Primochill 19/13 Black

Fittings:
EK-PSC Pressure Black * ~15
EK-CSQ Adapter 90° * 5-10
EK-PSC Adapter 45° * 5-10

Totals would be around 800€

Although i now have my eyes on the Fractal Arc XL which i might get instead.
http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=116

Released in late july/august so i think i'll wait for it rolleyes.gif

I like your all your choices apart from the case
essentially it doesn't have any direct fresh air intake I would research this one a bit more. It is a common complaint amongst all 800D owners Lack of Airflow.
Depending on how much you want to spend I got the NZXT 820 Phantom because it fulfilled all my needs but 1, I would personally say it is one of the ugliest cases available but it is more functional than most at the time I got it and fitted into my budget.
the 900D is an awesome case but wasn't even talked about being released at the time but would love to have it now but it is not worth the time and effort for me to swap out to this case.

I just looked at the fractal it looks good, I would own it.
Edited by feznz - 6/7/13 at 2:37pm
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