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Originally Posted by barcode71 View Post

Therefore convenience outweighs security?

Well... that's the entire purpose of security. If you want ultimate security, something would be so inconvenient that NO ONE would be able to access. It would be 100% safe and completely useless. Security is ALWAYS about accessibility versus control.

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Ummm there are these things called separate networks. These networks have different classifications and are not accessible to each other. Where things go astray is when some idiot takes the information from a higher classified system and copies it to a lower classified system. This has to be done via physical media and hence why it is easy to prosecute on.
Of course... but does seperate networks apply to the Internet?

Managing, maintain, and securing multiple internal networks can get hard fast as you scale up.
Edited by DuckieHo - 6/5/13 at 12:42pm
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Big difference between state-sponsored and private attacks.
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Come on now, USA calls them currency manipulators too when US is the biggest in the world. They also buy all your debt. Be nice.

They buy our debt because they're most likely to get it back in the future [20,30,40+ years from now], not because they're doing some huge favor to our economy. They need to have our debt as much as we need them to seeing as that we are China's biggest exporter. Its a weird dynamic where the American people are the biggest holder of US debt, China is our single biggest plurality debt holder, and American's are China's biggest exporter.
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US vs China
Econimic allies
Cyber warfare
Military neutrality

somethings gonna break sooner or later.

Absolutely. I am certain that in my lifetime (sitll in my 20's), I will see these to giants battle in a less subtle way.

 

Looking back at history, it's almost impossible to avoid the conflict with the exception of the USA and USSR, who didn't technically fight each other in a formal war.

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Let me play you a sad song on the worlds smallest violin.

This.
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You are naive if you think the US government doesn't try to hack into Chinese systems on a daily basis.
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The world is not so simple.

So how would one access the secret information then? Let's say I need a schematic for an engine component. Should I fly cross country, pickup the USB drive with a design, and fly it home again? What happens if the person loses the drive?

Set up a VPN tunnel with 8192-bit encryption, and tell the US government to "get bent" on not allow US Citizens REALLY STRONG encryption.

Sorry, but our own government is just as guilty as China is in hamstringing companies by not allowing strong encryption.
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Set up a VPN tunnel with 8192-bit encryption, and tell the US government to "get bent" on not allow US Citizens REALLY STRONG encryption.

Sorry, but our own government is just as guilty as China is in hamstringing companies by not allowing strong encryption.


The issue is more that companies do not feel the need to implement strong security/encryption.

i.e. Major companies are storing passwords in plain text or unsalted fast hash.
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The issue is more that companies do not feel the need to implement strong security/encryption.

i.e. Major companies are storing passwords in plain text or unsalted fast hash.

If they can get their hands on the data, encrypted or not they will likely discover its content with that:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239710/China_surpassing_U.S._with_54.9_petaflop_supercomputer
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US attempting to steal their own technology from China.

Priceless.

LOL

Also, I wouldn't really consider any of this news, nearly all of the super powers are trying to hack each other to gain intelligence, and it has been going on for years. I would like to say with exception to the countries completely allied.. but you never know.
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Originally Posted by lacrossewacker View Post

If I was to send a trojan to somebody in China, would that constitute a "US hacks China" statistic or is this purely gov't related hackings? I mean, are they just referring to people doing this from around the country in their basements, or are they referring to US organized hacking?
Here let me help you read. rolleyes.gif
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5.63 million mainframes in China. Of those, 4,062 US-based control servers hijacked 2.91 million mainframes in China.
Im assuming my basement computer doesnt fall under a mainframe category.
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