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Hey guys sorry for double post but i wanted to open new thread as i have read a lot about overclock.
I have 3930K + Asus P9X79 + Corsair Vengeance 16gb 1600mhz cl9+Thermalright Archon sb-e x2 push-pull
so after reading a lot post about overclocking im little bit confused cause first of all i never have overclock anything and there is differences in overclock guides and because im noob i dont know the correct settings for my purpose.So here it goes
Things i want:
1. Stable overclock at max 4.4-4.5Ghz for 24/7 at 4.2-4.3 is fine too!
2, At most time my computer is idle but when i work on it (music production)i want full power so i dont want to keep it running at e.g. 4.5ghz everytime but only when i need it so which power settings i must disable or enable C1E,Speedstep etc to achieve this?Help me with that.
3. Because im newbie what is the necessary settings that i must change to overclock?I dont want to mess up with the voltages.
4. Dont wanna reduce the cpu life time and as i have read the vcore and the temperatures are the important thing for this and i must keep them bellow 60degrees.


From threads that i have read i think this is the necessary settings that i must change only,if u suggest something less or more tell me because i want to change only the necessary and dont wanna make 100hours testing for stability to achieve the best settings!

1. Change the multiplier to 42-45 i think for start i go fore 4.2Ghz overlock so the multiplier will be 42
2. Vcore: i think for 4.2Ghz i will put it at start to 1.3 or 1.25? and reduce it little bit until bsod right?
3. BCLK: and CPU Strap default at 100
4. Turbo ratio: By all cores
5. DRAM Timing Control : auto?
6. CPU Load-line Calibration : medium or high?
7. CPU Current Capability: 130%?
8. VCCSA Current Capability: 120%?
9. VCCSA Boot Up Voltage auto
10. CPU Voltage Frequency: auto
11. CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
12. CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe
13. CPU VCCSA Voltage: manual mode?
14. CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage: 1.100 or default?
15. VTTCPU Voltage: 1.100 or default?
16. Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Disabled
17. Anti Surge Support : Disabled
18. CPU POWER MANAGMENT CONFIGURATION: Speedstep,C1E,C3,C6,C7 what to do with that?
Is this all the settings that i must change?or i can avoid some of them?And is this settings correct?Plz i need advice from Expert!

And in the end what test i must do to confirm the stability and for how much long?
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1. Change the multiplier to 42-45 i think for start i go fore 4.2Ghz overlock so the multiplier will be 42. Yep
2. Vcore: i think for 4.2Ghz i will put it at start to 1.3 or 1.25? and reduce it little bit until bsod right?.

Here you want to set Vcore to Offset. This means when your CPU is idle itll clock down to 1.2Ghz @ 0.8v. And under load itll ramp up to your overclock at additional offset Vcore.

On this motherboard the Offset Vcore is applied to a VID, the VID changes at each multiplier. So for start set the offset to +0.005v. Boot into Windows and check load Vcore using Prime95 and CPUz, adjust the offset in bios so it hits around 1.30v at load.


3. BCLK: and CPU Strap default at 100. Yes
4. Turbo ratio: By all cores. Yes
5. DRAM Timing Control : auto? Yes
6. CPU Load-line Calibration : medium or high? If you run Offset leave it at regular or medium.
7. CPU Current Capability: 130%? yes
8. VCCSA Current Capability: 120%? yes or 130% doesnt matter.
9. VCCSA Boot Up Voltage auto. Yes
10. CPU Voltage Frequency: auto. Yes, raise to 350KHz at 4.6Ghz plus.
11. CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled. Yes
12. CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe. Yes
13. CPU VCCSA Voltage: manual mode?. Yes
14. CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage: 1.100 or default?. Yes, id start with 1.05v, im using 1.1v at 4.6Ghz, 2133Mhz Ram.
15. VTTCPU Voltage: 1.100 or default?. Yes, 1.10v is reasonable, im using 1.1v at 4.6Ghz, 2133Mhz Ram.
16. Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Disabled. No, leave it Enabled.
17. Anti Surge Support : Disabled. Yes
18. CPU POWER MANAGMENT CONFIGURATION: Speedstep,C1E,C3,C6,C7 what to do with that?. Leave it DEFAULT, it runs just as you want it to work at default settings.

Prime95, click Torture Test, select Blend, select Custom. Enter a good amount of RAM to test, i test 14Gb with total of 16Gb installed. Then click OK. Run for about 10-15mins, then adjust Vcore. If your temps are ok raise the OC and Vcore offset, then finalise with a longer run of 4hours or more..

Safe to push Core Temps to 80*c whilst stability testing.
Edited by jasjeet - 6/5/13 at 6:51am
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1. Change the multiplier to 42-45 i think for start i go fore 4.2Ghz overlock so the multiplier will be 42. Yep
2. Vcore: i think for 4.2Ghz i will put it at start to 1.3 or 1.25? and reduce it little bit until bsod right?.

Here you want to set Vcore to Offset. This means when your CPU is idle itll clock down to 1.2Ghz @ 0.8v. And under load itll ramp up to your overclock at additional offset Vcore.

On this motherboard the Offset Vcore is applied to a VID, the VID changes at each multiplier. So for start set the offset to +0.005v. Boot into Windows and check load Vcore using Prime95 and CPUz, adjust the offset in bios so it hits around 1.30v at load.


3. BCLK: and CPU Strap default at 100. Yes
4. Turbo ratio: By all cores. Yes
5. DRAM Timing Control : auto? Yes
6. CPU Load-line Calibration : medium or high? If you run Offset leave it at regular or medium.
7. CPU Current Capability: 130%? yes
8. VCCSA Current Capability: 120%? yes or 130% doesnt matter.
9. VCCSA Boot Up Voltage auto. Yes
10. CPU Voltage Frequency: auto. Yes, raise to 350KHz at 4.6Ghz plus.
11. CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled. Yes
12. CPU Power Duty Control: T.Probe. Yes
13. CPU VCCSA Voltage: manual mode?. Yes
14. CPU VCCSA Manual Voltage: 1.100 or default?. Yes, id start with 1.05v, im using 1.1v at 4.6Ghz, 2133Mhz Ram.
15. VTTCPU Voltage: 1.100 or default?. Yes, 1.10v is reasonable, im using 1.1v at 4.6Ghz, 2133Mhz Ram.
16. Intel Adaptive Thermal Monitor: Disabled. No, leave it Enabled.
17. Anti Surge Support : Disabled. Yes
18. CPU POWER MANAGMENT CONFIGURATION: Speedstep,C1E,C3,C6,C7 what to do with that?. Leave it DEFAULT, it runs just as you want it to work at default settings.

Prime95, click Torture Test, select Blend, select Custom. Enter a good amount of RAM to test, i test 14Gb with total of 16Gb installed. Then click OK. Run for about 10-15mins, then adjust Vcore. If your temps are ok raise the OC and Vcore offset, then finalise with a longer run of 4hours or more..

Safe to push Core Temps to 80*c whilst stability testing.

So i adjust the settings with ofsset at 0.005 i have vid: 1,3361v and vcore: 1.28, i have pass 10cycles with intelburn test at high settings max temperature 78degrees.And now im running prime95.Should i change the vcore offset or is everything fine cause i dont understand what did u say about vid and vcore .
post #4 of 8
You can reduce the Offset till you BSOD, or increase the Multiplier until you do. Depends if you want to reduce temps or increase Speed.

But the offset will need to be adjusted each time you change the Multiplier because the offset is applied to the VID which is determined according to the Multiplier.

Eg,
Multi = 40, Mobo uses 1.25v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.2505v actual Vcore
Multi = 42, Mobo uses 1.28v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.2805v actual Vcore
Multi = 44, Mobo uses 1.30v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.3005v actual Vcore

As you can see, the offset is the same in all three instances, but since the VID is linked to the Multiplier you end up with different final Vcore.

With 1.336v id think you could hit maybe 4.4Ghz, so raise the Multi and have a quick test. Keep offset at 0.005v, boot into Windows, find actual load Vcore in CPUz, then adjust the offset in Bios so that the Load Vcore ends up at 1.336v, you might need a negative offset to achieve that.

With your current cooling id probably not go any more than 1.35v Vcore.
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You can reduce the Offset till you BSOD, or increase the Multiplier until you do. Depends if you want to reduce temps or increase Speed.

But the offset will need to be adjusted each time you change the Multiplier because the offset is applied to the VID which is determined according to the Multiplier.

Eg,
Multi = 40, Mobo uses 1.25v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.2505v actual Vcore
Multi = 42, Mobo uses 1.28v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.2805v actual Vcore
Multi = 44, Mobo uses 1.30v VID, offset +0.005 = 1.3005v actual Vcore

As you can see, the offset is the same in all three instances, but since the VID is linked to the Multiplier you end up with different final Vcore.

With 1.336v id think you could hit maybe 4.4Ghz, so raise the Multi and have a quick test. Keep offset at 0.005v, boot into Windows, find actual load Vcore in CPUz, then adjust the offset in Bios so that the Load Vcore ends up at 1.336v, you might need a negative offset to achieve that.

With your current cooling id probably not go any more than 1.35v Vcore.

I have change some settings i have change the multiplier to 44 vcore manual to 1.35. With 45multiplier i have bsod so i leave it to 44 and now i think is stable i have run intelburntest and now i run prime95 torture test.
So my current settings in cpuz are(with prime95 running right now):
vcore= 1.320-1.344 max
max temp reached: 83 degrees at core 1 and 4 the other cores at 78-80 max
Are this results good?I will do offset after if it runs stable with current settings.
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85 degrees reached should i stop the test?
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85*c is pretty hot, tbh ive run mine to 90*c for short periods of time, so if its pegged at above 85*c for pretty long then you might want to back off. Or see if you can get 4.4Ghz at less Vcore.

You should also disable the Q-Fan setting in Bios as the Asus design uses the TCase CPU Temp to manage the fan speeds, my fans didnt even go past 60% at 91*c rolleyes.gif, that should give you another couple of degrees headroom.

You might find slightly reducing the VCCSA and VTT gives a couple of degrees less too.
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85*c is pretty hot, tbh ive run mine to 90*c for short periods of time, so if its pegged at above 85*c for pretty long then you might want to back off. Or see if you can get 4.4Ghz at less Vcore.

You should also disable the Q-Fan setting in Bios as the Asus design uses the TCase CPU Temp to manage the fan speeds, my fans didnt even go past 60% at 91*c rolleyes.gif, that should give you another couple of degrees headroom.

You might find slightly reducing the VCCSA and VTT gives a couple of degrees less too.

So finally i clocked at 4.2 with vcore: 1.3 below that i had bsod.I run intelburn tust for 10min and then prime95 for 8 hours no errors.Is that fine or should i do another test?
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