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I'm not delusional, I just don't like the OS. For now I will keep using Win 7 until it's EOL. Just like I did with XP, jumped from XP to Win 7 w/o any issues.

You misunderstand, I didn't mean to make it seem like I was calling you delusional. Just, ya know, the market share is SO Windows oriented, and relies SO heavily on Windows, people will eventually switch whether they like it or not because Microsoft has it by the balls.
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Tablet OS huh? Step backwards for PC?

I guess Windows 8 doesn't come with:

- Better CPU multi-core scheduling
- Better SSD compatibility and general improvements (stability and speed)
- WDDM 1.2
- Native DirectX 11.1 support
- Lighter/faster Kernel
- Better Security
...

Talk about judging a book by its cover.

PC sales have been declining prior to the release of Windows 8, so usage numbers can't be taken into account when judging Windows 8.

My CPU is fine
My SSD is stable
Don't care for WDDM
Got DX 11
Don't care about lighter/faster kernel
My PC is secure

Yes, Win 8 is a more advanced OS but that is not my main issue, I just don't like it.
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PC sales have been declining prior to the release of Windows 8, so usage numbers can't be taken into account when judging Windows 8.

How DARE you point out a fact. How DARE you.
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My CPU is fine
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Got DX 11
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My PC is secure

Yes, Win 8 is a more advanced OS but that is not my main issue, I just don't like it.

That's completely understandable, just don't call it a Tablet OS (:

At its core Windows 8 has been the best OS developed by Microsoft.

Not to mention the amazing deals given by Microsoft itself when released (what was it? $15?)
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Originally Posted by Spritanium View Post

Well, I don't know about you, but I rarely (if ever) browse the All Apps screen to find a program. If it isn't already pinned to my taskbar, I just search for it.

I don't always remember the program I'm looking for.

And 10 PDF files named "Introduction" makes it difficult to find what I'm looking for without the context of what folder they belonged in.
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My CPU is fine
My SSD is stable
Don't care for WDDM
Got DX 11
Don't care about lighter/faster kernel
My PC is secure

Yes, Win 8 is a more advanced OS but that is not my main issue, I just don't like it.

Wow. I thought this was OCN.

Is there a ballpark release date for this yet? Apologies if already posted.
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That's completely understandable, just don't call it a Tablet OS (:

At its core Windows 8 has been the best OS developed by Microsoft.

Not to mention the amazing deals given by Microsoft itself when released (what was it? $15?)

But I have to because it's a great tablet OS. I have used it many times on my GF's tablet and have no issues whatsoever, none. But when it comes to my PC id rather not have all those widgets and different screens to navigate through (having to scroll to the right of the screen to have some other stuff pop up, etc). Some people love it because they got used to it or they found use for the UI, I don't use any of that stuff.

I'm good without all the fluff, all I need is a start button and my game/monitoring icons and im fine biggrin.gif
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Everyone, to put it into perspective, this is a guy who thinks that the Windows 8 desktop is a metro app. This shows you how qualified he is on the matter at hand.

What I'm saying is: Do NOT get worked up over what he posts. It's not worth it. thumb.gif

STOP SPREADING FALSEHOODS, you know exactly what I said, and that is not it. I have proven you wrong once, I'll do it again. You don't know how to handle arguments, you didn't even know what the desktop is, everyone on that thread was against you because you just ran away when confronted with facts.

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That entire time you two were arguing the same thing but with different meanings, you took it completely wrong (He meant the desktop feels like a separate app in that it's very separate from Metro which is kinda true IMO) though. Stop using that as an example, as it only damages your credibility too...There's a reason he had people backing him up and I don't believe anyone was backing you up in that argument.

Exactly, I even quoted Steven Sinofsky on it, but he just can't recognize it and still thinks he has a point in insulting others.

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I had plenty backing me up. I was right. thumb.gif

And his logic doesn't stand; by saying it's unfinished, you're saying any piece of software that receives an update is unfinished. An update is an update. Windows 8 was finished, Windows 8.1 is different.

No you didn't, and you keep running away when confronted with facts. As to Windows 8 being unfinished, I answered your question back in my last post but you once again decided to run away from it and decided to insult me instead by spreading falsehoods about what I said for the second time.
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Tablet OS huh? Step backwards for PC?

I guess Windows 8 doesn't come with:

- Better CPU multi-core scheduling
- Better SSD compatibility and general improvements (stability and speed)
- WDDM 1.2
- Native DirectX 11.1 support
- Lighter/faster Kernel
- Better Security
...

Talk about judging a book by its cover.

PC sales have been declining prior to the release of Windows 8, so usage numbers can't be taken into account when judging Windows 8.

Even though what you posted above is accurate here are some not so good facts about Win 8 :

1. Metro, aka Modern: An ugly, useless interface.

I said it before, I'll say it again: Metro, or whatever you want to call it, may make an nice tablet interface, but it's ugly and useless on the desktop. It requires users to forget everything they ever learned about Windows and learn an entirely new way of doing things for no real reason. To quote a popularly held opinion, Metro is "awful."

True, you can use a more traditional Windows interface, but you know what would have been a lot better? If Microsoft had just kept the Windows 7 Aero interface for the desktop version of Windows 8 and give up this idea that the Metro touch-friendly interface is for every device.

2. Windows 8 brought nothing innovative to the desktop.

Can you tell me one new thing that Windows 8 brought to the desktop that was truly innovative? Exciting? Engaging? I can't. Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7, but that's about it -- and that dual interface mess makes it slower for practical purposes.

3. Developers hate it.

I said all along programmers wouldn't like throwing out their hard-won .NET, Windows Communication Foundation (WCF) and Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF) expertise to work natively on Windows 8. I was right. Gabe Newell, co-founder and managing director of video game company Valve, said it best: "Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space." He then started moving his Steam game empire to Linux.

4. Legacy Windows 7 users aren't moving.

We saw this happen before with Vista and XP. Then, as now, the new operating system -- Vista -- was not better than the old operating system -- XP -- so very few people moved to it. We're seeing it again now.

In addition, in an economy that's still not moving forward quickly, who really wants to move from tried-and-true Windows 7 to new, expensive Windows 8 PCs? As Sterne Agee analyst Shaw Wu observed, the $500 to $1200 price tags slapped on Windows 8 hardware makes it "uncompetitive" in a world where people want iPads and Android tablets.

5. Tablet, smartphone, and desktop competition.

If you are going to buy a new computing device in 2013, chances are it's going to be an Apple iPad, an inexpensive Android tablet, or a Chromebook. The PC desktop isn't dead, but it's not very profitable either -- and Windows 8 isn't helping PC sales.

Microsoft has to know this. If Microsoft does indeed start selling, or rather renting, Microsoft Office for iPad, you'll know they've seen the light. Microsoft's future then will not lie in operating system and application sales, but in services.

And Windows 8? Like Vista before it, Microsoft will re-release an older version of Windows, Windows 7 this time instead of XP, and start talking about wonderful Windows Blue, the next version of Windows.

AFAIK Win 7 never had to deal with any of the issues posted above, that's says alot for such an acclaimed OS. On top of that we had no tablets when Win 7 released so that makes the argument even worse for Win 8.

Edit :

relevant 8.1 news :

http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/windows-blue-microsoft-blows-it-219820

again for the tablet it looks pretty nice, new features and moar fluff biggrin.gif
Edited by Maiky - 6/5/13 at 2:01pm
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Opinion

I don't see any facts in what you posted, except what one individual said about it.
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