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The changes they are adding should have been in it to start with IMO but it is good to see its being added. Been using Windows 8 open beta. I didn't like it at first either but ones they got farther in beta's and I used it more its great. I can see everyone points except for those who haven't used it and bash it(1 hour isn't enough to judge). I just wish some people would realize that start screen IS the start menu, Just implemented in a new and IMO better way.

Was Windows 8 perfect? Nope, not even close but a lot of gripes i had are being fixed in 8.1 and It is progress. Why did Microsoft go for a more friendly touchscreen interface? What does almost everything now use/and what is only going to become more common? A touchscreen!

Microsoft is looking in the future, for every company has to evolve with the market PC/Tablets/Phones with touchscreen is it.

It's simple you don't like it fine, you will find something you do like. If you do like it you will enjoy the changes and the future. Win/Win for everyone.. thumb.gif
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I don't see any facts in what you posted, except what one individual said about it.

so you are saying that everything that I posted is bogus?

that contradicts what all reviewers have been posting since the OS came out.

Nobody is saying that it was a fail tablet-wise (on the contrary), im talking strictly PC-wise.
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I don't like 8.1 either, they keep trying to turn our PC's into Smartphones. No one needs a dumb fancy lock screen.
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There's also the fact that the amount of businesses that would really want to go to Metro isn't going to be high, the training costs for a lot of users (Some users would pick it up easily, most wouldn't.) and costs of lost productivity until all the users are trained to the level they were at with 7 at least would probably vastly outweigh any benefits, and probably come pretty close to the cost of retraining their staff for a Linux distro with a much closer to 7 style interface and porting their apps to it, I can't speak for everyone but there's more changes to the workflow going from 7 to 8 than 7 to say, xfce for me at least.

Hammer. Nail. Head.

Microsoft believed they had killed off Linux as a potential competitor on the desktop and that Macs are simply too expensive for widespread distribution in the Enterprise, but taking into account the new SaaS model for Office coupled with a complete retrain of all employees to upgrade to Win 8 (or 9 which will probably be the case because Enterprises are just now getting to Win 7 pon a widespread basis), now is the time that some Enterprises will look into a complete port to Linux for the end user compute environment.

I'm not saying that it will be the outcome, it's just that Microsoft has opened the door for Enterprises to examine what the TCO and any ROI will be from migrating off Windows and onto a different platform could be.

You'd be amazed at how widespread Linux already is as a server platform for the back office applications. Organizations are already very comfortable putting mission critical applications on the platform. The massive change in the UI means the potential for a complete rethinking of the end user computing environment.
Edited by Xyxox - 6/5/13 at 2:37pm
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Stop.

Just stop.

Being "scared" has NOTHING to do with it.

Just because I don't like cauliflower doesn't mean that I am SCARED of it. It's just personal choice.

Just as you must be sick of people trashing Windows 8, I am sick and tired of people like you who say that "People are SCARED of change".

Do you and the others even know the MEANING of the word? I seriously doubt it.

So do yourself a favor and just stop using the term scared in an inappropriate manner.

This. Seriously. It's getting tiring hearing both people bicker back and forth about it.

If you like it, great! Continue liking it all you want, but there is a rather large amount of people that do not like it and they have every right to express that opinion when it is on topic with a thread, in this case featuring new features for Windows 8.1, it is quite on topic as they may like some of the new features but it hasn't really changed some of the core aspects they were hoping for.


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On topic though, it's nice to see they're working on the Search function, that thing was almost all but useless. And having a start button ( even one that links to metro ) is a start in the right direction, at least people won't be totally confused about how to get back to the metro screen ( my mother calls me at least once a week forgetting how to on her new laptop ).
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1. You have the clock, battery and wireless icons on the lock screen, but where are they on the Start screen ? Obvious thing missing. They shouldn't be hidden
Those things are very to easy to access with touch input. You just swipe in from the right side to bring up the charms bar, and when you do that, a box appears on the left side of the screen which contains all of those things you mentioned. With a mouse, you move it to the upper or lower right corner, which does the same thing.

Further, you can do this at any time, no matter what apps or whatever else are running. When you are done, just swipe again to hide it again.
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On topic though, it's nice to see they're working on the Search function,.

copied from linux
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no thanks, will use windows 7 until windows 9 comes out
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copied from linux

Everyone copies everyone. Thus is life.
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Even though what you posted above is accurate here are some not so good facts about Win 8 :

1. Metro, aka Modern: An ugly, useless interface.

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2. Windows 8 brought nothing innovative to the desktop.

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3. Developers hate it.

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4. Legacy Windows 7 users aren't moving.

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Gonna keep it short and sweet:

1. " Metro, aka Modern: An ugly, useless interface."

It has a learning curve but once you get the hang of it the ModernUI is faster, easier to use vs the 18 year old dinosaur that is the Start Button.

2. "Windows 8 brought nothing innovative to the desktop."

So now every single OS release has to bring something groundbreaking and innovative to be considered a step forward for us Desktop users.

I guess you think Windows 7 innovated on the desktop, am I right?

Windows 8 was built from the ground up to further improve the experience for us Desktop users with high end hardware, but I guess you're still gonna play the "Metro is crap" card here....

3. "Developers hate it."

You might have a point with the somewhat strict rules that exist in the Windows Store platform (for indie devs to release stuff), but the inclusion of DirectX11.1 was definitely something very welcomed by developers. It's not a MAJOR DirectX release, but it was improved on to facilitate the life of devs:

https://twitter.com/repi/statuses/236826176763604992

https://twitter.com/repi/status/307797749439549440

https://twitter.com/repi/status/114017754201325569

4. "Legacy Windows 7 users aren't moving."

Your loss (:


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But I have to because it's a great tablet OS. I have used it many times on my GF's tablet and have no issues whatsoever, none. But when it comes to my PC id rather not have all those widgets and different screens to navigate through (having to scroll to the right of the screen to have some other stuff pop up, etc). Some people love it because they got used to it or they found use for the UI, I don't use any of that stuff.

I'm good without all the fluff, all I need is a start button and my game/monitoring icons and im fine biggrin.gif

Still going at it I see...

Even though you admitted that Windows 8 is a superior OS vs 7, you're still calling it a Tablet OS... Either way, I'm not the one looking foolish (:
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