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MS did this to put all the 3rd party start menu companies out of business lol.rolleyes.gif

I'm betting Start 8 (and others) will still have more features/customization than whatever official start menu Microsoft comes up with. I'll try the official one when 8.1 comes out but I'm fairly certain I'll revert back to using Start 8.
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Tablet OS huh? Step backwards for PC?

I guess Windows 8 doesn't come with:

- Better CPU multi-core scheduling
- Better SSD compatibility and general improvements (stability and speed)
- WDDM 1.2
- Native DirectX 11.1 support
- Lighter/faster Kernel
- Better Security
...

Talk about judging a book by its cover.

PC sales have been declining prior to the release of Windows 8, so usage numbers can't be taken into account when judging Windows 8.

This is a rather sad attempt to defend Windows 8...

The better multi-core scheduling that supposedly is there doesn't change anything save for giving Bulldozer CPUs a 2-7% boost in a select few tests.

TRIM is near useless with newer SSDs...the SSD controller handles most of this on its own in conjunction with the garbage collector...some don't even need that. Plus, the only change that I can see in Windows 8 is that they made it easy to schedule it.

WDDM? I've actually been curious how they could improve this, but so far there is no way to really test this. If HSA took off over night and all of a sudden we had a dozen threads all wanting access to the GPU this might be a larger deal...but for right now and for quite some time this about as exciting as USB 3.0 when all you are plugging in is an old USB printer and a game controller.

With Windows 8 having like 5% of the PC OS market I doubt we will see much push for implementing the DX11.1 changes...and I don't think many are that important. The Stereographic features are probably the most interesting. but I doubt many people would make use of them.

The lighter faster kernel has yet to be really proven...I mean if it is more efficient it is in terms of nano seconds, but then since the nicer options of Windows 8 require the use of the mouse everything takes longer to do any way.

Pretty much every new OS will seal up some security holes in the last version, but will always open up some new ones. So security is a moot point.


Though I wouldn't call it a tablet OS...it is just an OS. The focus put on using the mouse would suggest that the OS is not expecting a keyboard to be present though. So I can see why people would think it is meant to be a tablet OS. It certainly works better with a touch screen. I don't think that can be denied. Plus everything that you just mentioned could help out a Tablet as much as a PC if the tablet utilized it. In fact what you mentioned probably helps out tablets more than PCs currently.
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post #83 of 142
great for a tablet...bad for a desktop...
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post #84 of 142
Didn't see "classic" start menu or resizable, moveable app windows.

For 99.999999% of Desktop and Laptop users, the new interface is cumbersome and adds additional steps. It's easy to figure out, but it's still inconvenient and violating customer base(s). However, that being said, Windows 8 on Tablet, touch AIOs, and touch laptops, works great. It's a fairly well thought out touch-screen OS, IMHO.
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I'm more than happy with 7, will wait till 9 as this has nothing I need or want. My time with the RC and a cheap copy during the fire sales when they couldn't move them was enough for me to know this isn't aimed at me. Windows 8 and MS can go kick rocks with Apple on the other side if they want but they won't be on any my personal or my family computers.
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I am actually very excited about that search, ability to choose color of images you want to find? Oh yes!
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post #87 of 142
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Though I wouldn't call it a tablet OS...it is just an OS. The focus put on using the mouse would suggest that the OS is not expecting a keyboard to be present though. So I can see why people would think it is meant to be a tablet OS. It certainly works better with a touch screen. I don't think that can be denied. Plus everything that you just mentioned could help out a Tablet as much as a PC if the tablet utilized it. In fact what you mentioned probably helps out tablets more than PCs currently.

I agree 100% that the OS works BETTER with a touch screen. At the same time, without a touch screen, I have become more efficient on Windows 8 than I was on Windows 7. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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I'm betting Start 8 (and others) will still have more features/customization than whatever official start menu Microsoft comes up with. I'll try the official one when 8.1 comes out but I'm fairly certain I'll revert back to using Start 8.

I'm 100% with you on that. Start8 is amazing and it makes windows 8 an amazing OS.
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post #90 of 142
in the end

u wanna game u use WIN8/8.1/9 whatever (they wont get rid or the new UI cuz tuochscreen is the future)

u dont like it or ur games gonna be playble in linux (good luck there) ull move to linux
MS will lose small % of the desktop and replace it with tablet market

a companey can never have win/win
they must lose some to win some
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