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I was going to pick up the WD Red (WD30EFRX) 3TB HDD for $149.99 on special (reg $159.99) today but I saw the Seagate (ST4000DM000) 4TB HDD for $169.99 on special (reg $189.99), should I get that over the WD Red? And why is the Seagate so much cheaper then the WD Black (WD4001FAEX) 4TB HDD which costs $299.99 and has the same specs..
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post #2 of 13
The Seagate is 5900RPM drive, not 7200RPM. Not sure if this is a factor but it will be noticeable. The average seek time to find data on the drive is 9.2ms, more than double the 4.2ms that the WD black is. I suspect that the price differential is led by the performance differences between the two drives as well as the WD Black have a 5 year warranty instead of 2 years like the Seagate.

As for the WD Red drives, they are good drives, especially if under an always on, ready, or in use state.

If you want more information and advice it may be helpful to let us know if these are going into any specific environments or just an extra drive for storage.
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post #3 of 13
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Well the drive I'm using will be a storage drive where all my music, video, and other huges are stores and will be asleep unless I'm playing music or watching videos that are stored on the drive, there will be absolutely no programs installed on the drive.

So what are your recommendations?
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What you are describing the 3TB Red would do just fine at but so would the 4TB Seagate. Those aren't demanding things that need a super fast drive, that is unless you are impatient like me. But that said, I would probably go Seagate for the sake of money (this time) despite my impatience and desire for the 5yr warranty.

Ultimately its preference, the 3TB Red has an extra year of warranty over the Seagate but other than that they will be almost the same in seek times finding data. This is because the WD Red drives use Intellipower which varies the speed of the platters depending on demand and what you are describing I don't see it running it at full all the time. So the question, from my view, is this:

3TB & 3yr warranty OR 4TB & 2yr warranty?
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post #5 of 13
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I've yet to ever use a Seagate HDD, are they any good?

And how do the WD Green Compare to the Reds?
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Truth be told, Western Digital is my go to brand. This though is primarily because of their warranties and their service and support. Western Digital has one of the best service departments and warranties in the computer industry. Western Digital Black drives have a 5 year warranty on them, Reds have a 3 year warranty on them, and the Greens & Blues a 2 year warranty. Any time I have had to deal with them its been stupidly simple.

Seagate, I have used in the past but they don't have the warranties on any of their drives that WD does. This is not to say that they make a bad drive as they don't. If it weren't for the warranty on the WD drives it would be a tossup for me which brand to use and in fact I would probably have a mixed environment due to using the cheaper at the time of acquisition.

You will hear a lot of partisan discussion about what brand is best but the simple truth is all HDD manufacturers have drive failures. So one persons account of how they had 2 of X manufacture fail should be taken with a grain of salt. I've seen a litany of drive failures from Seagate, WD, Toshiba, Samsung, Hitachi, Maxtor, Fujitsu, & HGST (Hitachi after being bought by WD). They all have failures so what makes them standout most is how they handle that. Which in my experience is why WD is my go to, they handle it best.

The Seagate drive you mentioned will be best compared to a Western Digital Black or Blue drive as its not a variable speed HDD like the Red & Green drives from WD. That said I don't have any solid numbers on its performance in comparison to the WD Black 4TB but due to its lower RPM rating it will be slower to access data. But once the data has been found they should be pretty close in read speed. For LARGE files I would suspect the slow spin speed may come into play if the files are fragmented and scattered about though. But again, is that worth doubling the cost?

Please anyone that replies to this, try not to feed a flame war any more than I probably already have.
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post #7 of 13
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Hey man thanks for the help (+1 Rep), information was very helpful! , I think I'm just going to get 3tb WD Green HDD and use the saved money on another part of my build.

Do you know much about SSD's?

Is it worth it to use raided SSD's for a boot drive or just stick with one?
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That's something I have seen some debate on. Back when SSDs first came out I had a pair of G.Skill Falcon SSDs. I had them in RAID0 and they were fast but I couldn't tell a huge difference from having just 1. I would say that the two of those SATA2 SSDs were maybe a little slower than my current Vertex 3 128GB.

If you want that sweet bragging right then its worth RAID0 with SSDs, if you want a fast and functional PC that doesn't cost more than it has to then 1 SSD is enough. At least, that's how I view it.
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post #9 of 13
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Ya I have a vertex 4 128gb and is fast, but for my new build I'm trying to decide if I should just get a single 128gb or 256gb 840 pro or raid two 128gb 840 pro's, but if there is absolutely no difference I might as well go for a single drive
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Given the options you are looking at, I personally would just stick with a singular 256GB drive.
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