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Alright, so if Status-4-Evar still works when this becomes Firefox 25, then I might actually be ok with the changes (yes, I seriously don't want to start over with a different browser). So far, the only extra button I have to have on the toolbar is for NoScript and I don't really need it because it's in the context menu as well. Not having the add-on bar is not bad if I use Status-4-Evar because I can do things like have the status in the location bar (it gets added off to the right which is proving to be very nice, surprisingly enough), and I can have link status pop up at the bottom. I like having them separated like that!

For a progress bar for page loads, I just have Status-4-Evar filling the location bar, and I think I like it.

For downloading files, that's something I'm not so sure of yet. Right now I have Status-4-Ever configured so that when I download a file, the progress with text including time remaining and number of downloads pops up on the toolbar and I can put it wherever I want in the Customize panel (I currently have it directly to the right of the search box). Without Status-4-Evar, all I can have is the download button with a tiny, hard-to-see progress bar and I have to click the button to see more detail. That's inconvenient.

So I'm really just trying to see why Mozilla is going in this direction because I had similar reactions when I switched from XP to 7. I spent time with it to see why they made the changes that they made, and now I can't stand XP. So, I'm considering the possibility that maybe I'll feel this way about all versions of Firefox prior to Firefox 25. Maybe. I have to give it a shot if I don't want to start over with a different browser.
Edited by TwoCables - 6/27/13 at 4:58pm
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You can already have quick launch icons in firefox through add-ons. The problem with firefox 25 quick launch icons is that if you have 10 pages open you wont be able to tell which is which because the tab will be so small.
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You can already have quick launch icons in firefox through add-ons. The problem with firefox 25 quick launch icons is that if you have 10 pages open you wont be able to tell which is which because the tab will be so small.

No, those are pinned tabs. previously called App Tabs.
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Ok, so now I'm trying Omnibar with UX Nightly 25.0a1 and I'm kind of digging it.
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Well, i wish i could live with such a solution, but i heavily dislike it that Mozilla UX Devs seem to know what Everyone really likes. If they are force me to accept that it is more "intelligent" to have now the upper bars crowded with all add-on buttons and even having the status in the upper bars.. this is as far away from a true minimalistic design as possible.

They just like it that way and force it on everyone, no matter if Users like it or not, and such a behaviour is not really the best way how to deal with the own userbase.
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Well, i wish i could live with such a solution, but i heavily dislike it that Mozilla UX Devs seem to know what Everyone really likes. If they are force me to accept that it is more "intelligent" to have now the upper bars crowded with all add-on buttons and even having the status in the upper bars.. this is as far away from a true minimalistic design as possible.

They just like it that way and force it on everyone, no matter if Users like it or not, and such a behaviour is not really the best way how to deal with the own userbase.

I know, I get that if someone has a ton of icons on their Add-on Bar that this is horrible because then they have to figure out where they're going to put them all. I can see that the Add-on Bar is/was a nice place to stick several icons, but perhaps the majority only have 2-3 like I did. I don't know. Of course, I agree that they should make it possible for power users or advanced users to have the Add-on Bar without relying on someone to make an extension that brings it back (if that's even going to be possible).

For me though, being without the Add-on Bar is proving to be no big deal. It only added one icon to my toolbar, and I'm growing to really like using Status-4-Evar to put the page load status in the Location Bar (to the right of the location), and the link indicator on the bottom - it pops up whenever I hover over a link.

This change to UX Nightly also caused me to try OmniBar which I'm really liking. Except, I can no longer do the following (try it with me): Ctrl+K, Alt+Enter. This opened up a new tab right to the main page of the search engine that I currently have selected. I can't do that anymore, but it's not a big deal because y'know, I can just type a couple letters of the address and I'm on my way. Or, I can grab the mouse and middle-click the search provider's name thanks to OmniBar Plus providing that functionality.

I also used Status-4-Ever to give me status text of file downloads right on the toolbar. It's to the right of my awesome OmniBar. It's always hidden, but when I download a file, it pops up on the toolbar (and slides the OmniBar over) showing me status text that displays the percentage, time remaining, and number of downloads. It's nice.

So I dunno: for me, this is still a positive change. I know that for others, it will be a HUGE deal breaker due to having too many icons on the Add-on Bar that now need a new home, and the toolbar is a HORRIBLE place for half a dozen extra icons or more! So in that respect, I agree that this is extremely bad news and I do hope and pray that Mozilla gets their head in the game and gives us the option to enable the Add-on Bar. Actually, it should work like this:

On a fresh installation (not an upgrade), Add-on Bar is disabled. When upgrading, it copies your preference so that you don't have to enable it and then move all of your icons back onto it!

I will say one thing: I kind of like the idea that there's a shorter distance that my eyes have to move since almost everything is on the toolbar. I was going to put the link text indicator status thing in the location bar too, but I like having them separated so that they can't interrupt one another while displaying their text.
Edited by TwoCables - 6/27/13 at 11:26pm
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