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ARGGHHH stopitstopitstopit stupid update numbering scheme is KILLING me. As far as I'M concerned, I'm running Firefox 6.3
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Originally Posted by Chunky_Chimp View Post

So should we call this FireChrome now? The gaps between the two browsers keep getting shorter... I'm also wondering what the point is of those new app buttons, what's the difference between them and bookmark buttons?
These my friend are pinned sites. This is what they look like in Chrome and Firefox is now introducing them as well. Basically it is a permanent tab that is always open but pushed off in the corner so it is not in the way. Looks like you will be able to close this tab out on Firefox though and just clicking it will re-open it in that small tab space.


Edited by XiCynx - 6/6/13 at 12:59pm
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Ah, I see.
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If I wanted a browser that looks/works exactly like Chrome, I'd use Chrome.

This looks awful. Will be avoiding it.
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Originally Posted by SkillzKillz View Post

I much prefer the current Firefox. Where's the Firefox button? Have you not learned anything from Microsoft removing the start button?
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I'm happy if I can add that big ass firefox button back to the upper left corner.

The first thing I do uppon installing a new Firefox is disabling that button anyway tongue.gif

I'm okay with this update. The tabs look stupid though.
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These my friend are pinned sites. This is what they look like in Chrome and Firefox is now introducing them as well. Basically it is a permanent tab that is always open but pushed off in the corner so it is not in the way. Looks like you will be able to close this tab out on Firefox though and just clicking it will re-open it in that small tab space.


Interesting and thanks for explaining. I'll give the new build a go when it releases and see if it's a feature I end up using or not. I'm hoping they went this route to optimize memory usage for those things commonly used vs tabs less used.
    
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I've noticed no speed differences between firefox and chrome personally. I generally don't like the way chrome functions so I use firefox. However , I do like chromes tabs, so similar tabs ain't going to bother me .
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You said 64bit Firefox. I gave the solution, you want to cut the bloat, it's open source.
So your solution is to go through millions of lines of codes, spending likely dozens of hours? No thank you, but I'll just use chrome.
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No, it's not seconds. Cold startup is one thing, after both programs have been cached the startup is too close for most to recognize with their bare eyes. As for sites, videos, etc tests have all been done to death, the difference is milliseconds, not seconds. Go look them up, I don't feel like having to prove something that's been beaten to death already. Neither is really any faster than the other when going toe to toe.

The only advantage Chrome has, is that it pre-loads every link on the page to make it seem faster. Turn that feature off, or add it to Firefox, and again both are toe to toe. So, what don't I know?

You continue having no idea what youre talking. Not everyone runs 5.0 Ghz waterclocked 3970x. Compare firefox / chrome on older hardware, the difference is on the order of seconds in a few key areas. This is a fact, so I'll continue pointing out that you are objectively incorrect despite the fact that you'll probably continue to lie.

And yet even on new hardware, the difference is still tangible. Maybe you just aren't very sensitive to these things, but I am.
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It looks like a big change but I am ready for change anyway.
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So your solution is to go through millions of lines of codes, spending likely dozens of hours? No thank you, but I'll just use chrome.

It's not that difficult, I've done it.
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You continue having no idea what youre talking. Not everyone runs 5.0 Ghz waterclocked 3970x. Compare firefox / chrome on older hardware, the difference is on the order of seconds in a few key areas. This is a fact, so I'll continue pointing out that you are objectively incorrect despite the fact that you'll probably continue to lie.

And yet even on new hardware, the difference is still tangible. Maybe you just aren't very sensitive to these things, but I am.

Just to give you an idea of the machines I've run it on. Old AMD 1.2GHz single core CPU with 256MB of RAM. Yeah, I think I've compared them on older hardware. If you can find me some benchmarks that show these full seconds, go ahead and prove me wrong, but this has been beaten to death already. Time and time again.

http://en.kioskea.net/faq/28055-google-chrome-enable-disable-the-pre-rendering-of-webpages

Go ahead, turn it off and the compare yourself, or turn it on in Firefox and compare yourself.

That is the only reason chrome seems faster. This whole thing went crazy when people found out chrome was pre loading / rendering the websites by default as everyone wanted to benchmark them but couldn't figure out why chrome was `faster` at loading. And seriously, after the programs are cached, start up times are nothing, even on older hardware.

I have no reason to lie, but since you want to say I lie yet provide no proof of your own claims then you might as well not.

How about some charts you say?











Now, notice the times ( milliseconds ) and who's ahead for most of the time, the couple of charts that do full full seconds and the difference at most at any given time is 1 second, unless you're trying to load 8 tabs at which time firefox flops behind. But also notice how it also depends on the OS. On Win 7, some are faster than others and vice versa, on Win 8... well same thing but then some are waaaaaaaaaaaay slower.

Now, as I said: Neither is really any faster than the other when going toe to toe., and aren't seconds apart like you want to claim, but again as I said milliseconds as in most of the time they're within a half of a second or better of each other.

You are just way too offensive, and offensive without any proof as well which is even worse. All benchmarks basically show Chrome and Firefox trading blows and going toe to toe each release, most of the time they stay relatively the same, sometimes one or other other pulls out ahead for a short time, but always end up pretty much equal again not long after. This is how it's been forever and as I said again, been beaten to hell already.


Now can we get back to discussing this new firefox and not comparing to chrome or whichever is faster?
Edited by Shrak - 6/6/13 at 9:33pm
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