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Man, I remember the glory days of Firefox 4.
We were so young back then.

In January.

I remember the glory days of Firefox 2!
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I remember the glory days of Firefox 2!
Those were NOT glory days.
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Chrome and Firefox start in roughly the same time for me. Or rather, they reach the point of responding to user input in about the same time. Firefox is ready to go when the window appears, but the window takes longer to appear than Chrome. When I start Chrome, it appears almost immediately, but then simply sits there for a bit until it decides that it's delayed my ability to navigate anywhere for long enough. IE9 and IE10 do much the same thing. Where Chrome has an advantage is time taken to unload resources when exiting. On my work PC this can take up to 30 seconds for Firefox if I've had it running long enough. Both are pretty quick on my home desktop though.

Anyway, such anecdotal evidence is meaningless to anyone else. Browsers behave wildly differently on different hardware and software configurations, which is why every browser-related thread gets filled with the same tired arguments from the same people who believe that because they see X, the person who apparently sees Y must be wrong.
    
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anecdotal evidence is meaningless to anyone else. Browsers behave wildly differently on different hardware and software configurations, which is why every browser-related thread gets filled with the same tired arguments from the same people who believe that because they see X, the person who apparently sees Y must be wrong.

Exactly.

Also I just wanted say, Mozilla are focusing on making firefox "faster", you would know this if you follow their weekly developement/product delivery meetings on their Wiki as well as projects related to improving browser performance such as the 'Snappy Project' and read release notes. thumb.gif

Startup time, shutdown time and tab switching performance have all majorly improved over the last few versions and there's more to come.

It's happening but slowly. Although it does seem like there has been a shift of focus to the mobile version, which seems plausible because it is not yet up to scratch, so to speak.

Damn, I look like a Mozilla rep now.
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But srsly

Remember this, guys? Come on, you remember.

I want this.

What's with that joke? 1st of April was two months ago.
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I dont like the look of the new tabs, i hope someone makes an addon to get back the current one
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Looking forward for a menu bar-less UI.

Hopefully this'll make me drop Chrome and its stupid features (no history/cache auto-erasing without a plugin, broken spellcheck (enables automatically even when disabled), broken smooth scrolling).

BUT. My vertical real estate is scarce, and Chrome provides the most minimalist functional UI.
   
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I dont like the look of the new tabs, i hope someone makes an addon to get back the current one

Will happen no doubt, just as it did from the transition from Firefox 3 to 4.
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It's the opposite for me. 120 tabs in Firefox barely uses like 300 megs of memory, but try to open that many in Chrome and you'd have 2 gigs used.

Wait... who in their right mind uses 120 tabs?!

I've never understood these arguments. People on overclock.net with 12+ gig gaming monsters complain about memory usage in completely unrealistic scenarios, but don't mind at all that in realistic every day usage the thing they are complaining about actually gets the job done faster by making use of all that extra hardware they paied good money for in the first place.
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Wait... who in their right mind uses 120 tabs?!

I've never understood these arguments. People on overclock.net with 12+ gig gaming monsters complain about memory usage in completely unrealistic scenarios, but don't mind at all that in realistic every day usage the thing they are complaining about actually gets the job done faster by making use of all that extra hardware they paied good money for in the first place.

Well, there is something else.
I use a lot of tabs myself, too - and I have reasons to do so.
Thing is, Firefox does not pre-load every single tab, and loads it on-demand (i.e. when you switch to it). That is why it would take such small amounts of RAM.
Chrome, however, fully loads every single tab and that's why it eats up that much memory. If you scroll through every single tab in Firefox it will consume almost as much RAM. (except for the zygote processes, since Chrome separates tabs into processes - which I personally dislike).

Trust me, I would've complained a lot about that when I was on my previous computer, armed with only 4GBs of RAM. But it worked flawlessly, and I was happy. And now I just don't mind. Since it's becoming popular here to argue about utilizing potentially wasted resources - I'd much rather have prefetch fill up those "wasted" memory banks and not my browser, which does the task just fine on-demand since it is bottlenecked not by I/O but rather the connection.

Edit: A common-user scenario just occured. Imagine having 10 youtube songs/videos opened and you shut down your browser. Then you restart it.
Scenario Firefox: Current tab gets loaded, you stop it/listen to it/watch it.
Scenario Chrome: All 10 tabs get loaded simultaneously, 10 audio/video streams start simultaneously, it's a cacophonia and it takes time to locate and close the appropriate ones because a couple of your CPU cores got pegged at 100%. Quite an unpleasant experience - it has happened to me.
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