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1 new card and re-brand the 6 series. I much rather they did not release and all and drop prices.
Errr they ARE "dropping prices" in the sense that now you're going to get a better card from them at exactly the same price point as it's predecessor (780/Titan not included tongue.gif). With 770 and 760 Ti the price/performance = better.

Just waiting AMD now.
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Can we talk about the card and not which GPU Vendor is better? Who gives a shiz as long as it works, good performance/price ratio.
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All we appear to have is a sneak peak at a 760 with no pricing info. I dont see anything that suggests they will be skipping the 760ti this gen. That 760 could very well be a $215-ish gpu, which if it performs equal or slightly better than a 660ti (especially with better bandwidth) puts it in 7950 territory.
A sub-$225 gpu with the performance of a $300 7950 (though maybe not the OC potential) is not a shabby deal at all. In the very least it will be a serious threat to the 7870 in the budget bang/buck category.

Single gpu driver issues seem to have been largely improved on the AMD side, so I dont see the driver issue being major. Actually the frame-time performance of single AMD gpus has been looking really good lately, at least from what I've read.
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All we appear to have is a sneak peak at a 760 with no pricing info. I dont see anything that suggests they will be skipping the 760ti this gen. That 760 could very well be a $215-ish gpu, which if it performs equal or slightly better than a 660ti (especially with better bandwidth) puts it in 7950 territory.
A sub-$225 gpu with the performance of a $300 7950 (though maybe not the OC potential) is not a shabby deal at all. In the very least it will be a serious threat to the 7870 in the budget bang/buck category.

Were your supposition come to pass and there will be a 670-based 760Ti (presumably at $299), I'd expect a 660Ti-based GTX 760 to cost $229.

That was the 660's original MSRP before being reduced to $199 a couple months ago, and would be quite competitive against AMD's current offerings at the same MSRP.
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Instead of releasing new cards on and on with no big difference, where do nVidia plan to go, to garbage city [no reference to any city, please, just my imagination!]. Better they drop prices and release stuff that has a lot more improvement and capacity!
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Instead of releasing new cards on and on with no big difference, where do nVidia plan to go, to garbage city [no reference to any city, please, just my imagination!]. Better they drop prices and release stuff that has a lot more improvement and capacity!

Ever heard of this concept called capitalism?
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Yea I did, but you ever heard of the concept of customer satisfaction? That's the reason for my post!
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Yea I did, but you ever heard of the concept of customer satisfaction? That's the reason for my post!

If there is no reason, then why?

This was simply to satisfy those that need more on a regular basis. The current rate of hardware progression is faster than software can handle. Not to mention the hardeare rivals have nothing, so its just a minor push.

If you think nvidia has nothing else to offer, you must be pretty niave. Its just that there is no reason to offer more. They probably have next year already planned, which should still keep amd at bay, and other competitors.

This is just a refresh, or another way to look at it is a refignment. They are tweaking what is already done. Why waste energy, software almost always caters to the common denominator, or an inbetween placement. So if you offer too high it just gets wasted.

If the hardware performs too high, they cannot sell the next gen as the current is obviously enough.Sure it makes you happy but they have to sell yearly to make profits.

Look at intel, each iteration doesnt put a huge gap for gamers to be satisfied. Iv seen 5+ yr old machines play the best, what does that do for sales. Even better, the bd fiasco. My phenom II still does what i need, if software could keep up it may not. Point is, currently im a lost customer due to the hardware way above the need.
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Instead of releasing new cards on and on with no big difference, where do nVidia plan to go, to garbage city [no reference to any city, please, just my imagination!]. Better they drop prices and release stuff that has a lot more improvement and capacity!

You're overlooking the core problem of GPU marketing: Enthusiasts want to see new cards every year, but new architectures for graphics cards take much longer to create.

There are only two viable solutions to pick up sales numbers in the middle of an architectural cycle:

1) Do a lineup refresh after 12-15 months by releasing "new" cards with minor improvements, and price them below their similarly-performing predecessors from the previous series (example: NVIDIA's 700 series except for the 780).

2) Hold steady with the current lineup, but offer value-added goodies like free games (example: AMD's 7000 series, which is already 17+ months old and will most likely be at least 20+ months old before their new architecture is ready).

While neither option is terribly exciting, such tactics are indeed necessary.
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AMDs single GPU drivers are pretty much on par with Nvidias right now and anyone who tells you otherwise hasn't got a clue. The reason it took AMD so long to put out good drivers for the 7K series is because they are a new architecture so they had to find out how to properly code drivers for the thing which took awhile (pretty much what happened with fermi (GTX480)) so i don't understand how you can blindly ignore one company doing it yet attack the other for it svenge.
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