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By your definition of rebranding then the 670 is just a rebranded 680 with fewer CUDA cores, and the 660 Ti is just a rebranded 670 with even fewer cores and one less memory controller. Obviously this is not the case, which means that your definition is bunk.

Before you go around saying that others have no idea what they're talking about, perhaps you ought to get your own house in order first.

Another reading failure rolleyes.gif That isn't what I wrote at all smile.gif


Ok here we go again, try and focus now.

The 780 is the Titan with less cores and less vram. The 770 is the 680 with higher clocks all else is the same, and so on down the line of rebranded GPU's. Whoever claimed AMD had done this, are misinformed because AMD only rebranded the OEM channel HD 8000 GPU's not retail desktop as Nvidia has done again with 7XX series like in the past.

Hopefully you can understand now, but I doubt it. I won't respond to further trolling, there just isn't any point.

Take it easy bro.
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Guys, do you think this card could actually be priced at $ 199 / € 199 ? An article on Tom's Hardware had that figure in € and I thought it was awesome, but yet thought it was too good to be true, but now here we are with GTX 760 rumours, but no GTX 760 Ti rumours. So, considering that the GTX 660's price is actually around $ 199 and the fact that Nvidia already has a massive pricing hole between GTX 770 and GTX 780, could it be that they decided to rebrand the GTX 670 into the GTX 760 instead of GTX 760 Ti and leave it to vendors to sell higher priced 4 GB variants to fill in the pricing gap ?

I mean, think about it, AMD cards are especially competitive in the mid-range, so much so that Nvidia had to launch 2 GB VRAM cards all the way down to the GTX 650 Ti Boost to compete with AMD, leaving them in a kind of awkward situation where a card with around half the power of the GTX 680 has the same amount of VRAM running at the same speed (which speaks worse of the GTX 680 than the GTX 650 Ti Boost), so this could be a brilliant move by Nvidia.

Personally, at that price point a 2 GB VRAM card is perfectly fine, and many people on Fermis could even consider buying one as a stopgap until Maxwell.
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Whether you approve of slightly improved rebrands or not, one thing some of you should take into consideration is not everyone upgrades annually. For the people who hang on to their GPUs for 2 or 3 generations, something like this GTX760 could be an attractive choice. Speaking for myself, this would be quite the good upgrade.
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Whether you approve of slightly improved rebrands or not, one thing some of you should take into consideration is not everyone upgrades annually. For the people who hang on to their GPUs for 2 or 3 generations, something like this GTX760 could be an attractive choice. Speaking for myself, this would be quite the good upgrade.

Like me smile.gif

Until a few months ago I was still using my GTX460's ( I've collected plenty of them over the years >.> ), and I upgraded to a GTX670 4GB. And I was planning on upgrading another computer as well and the 760 makes for a good price point for me.
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Guys, do you think this card could actually be priced at $ 199 / € 199 ? An article on Tom's Hardware had that figure in € and I thought it was awesome, but yet thought it was too good to be true, but now here we are with GTX 760 rumours, but no GTX 760 Ti rumours. So, considering that the GTX 660's price is actually around $ 199 and the fact that Nvidia already has a massive pricing hole between GTX 770 and GTX 780, could it be that they decided to rebrand the GTX 670 into the GTX 760 instead of GTX 760 Ti and leave it to vendors to sell higher priced 4 GB variants to fill in the pricing gap ?

It's possible, but rather unlikely for several reasons.

1) The 660 launched with a $229 MSRP and only dropped 2 months ago. I'd expect a "refreshed" card with the performance of 660 Ti to come in at that same price, not a 670-based card.

2) Having a lineup go from $649 -> $399 -> $199 with no intervening steps makes very little economic sense, and gives NVIDIA no flexibility in maximizing revenues in different sectors of the GPU market.

3) Having 670-based 760 priced for half of the 680-based 770 makes even less sense. Even if the 760 kept the 670's reference clocks, the difference in performance wouldn't justify such a price differential. There was less of a performance differential between the $399 GTX 670 and $499 GTX 680, and the 670 sold about 1/3 more units overall.
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It's possible, but rather unlikely for several reasons.

1) The 660 launched with a $229 MSRP and only dropped 2 months ago. I'd expect a "refreshed" card with the performance of 660 Ti to come in at that same price, not a 670-based card.

2) Having a lineup go from $649 -> $399 -> $199 with no intervening steps makes very little economic sense, and gives NVIDIA no flexibility in maximizing revenues in different sectors of the GPU market.

3) Having 670-based 760 priced for half of the 680-based 770 makes even less sense. Even if the 760 kept the 670's reference clocks, the difference in performance wouldn't justify such a price differential. There was less of a performance differential between the $399 GTX 670 and $499 GTX 680, and the 670 sold about 1/3 more units overall.

Your third argument is the one that makes the most sense to convince me, but on the other hand, this rumour says that the GTX 760 will have a 256-bit memory bus, so it won't be a GTX 660 Ti rebrand, so what do you reckon could be the differentiator if they later introduce a GTX 760 Ti ? Maybe they fused off more cores for the GTX 760, but kept the 256-bit memory bus to keep performance more consistent ? Perhaps it will ship with 1152 cores and cost € 199, and the GTX 760 Ti will be a GTX 670 rebrand with the memory at 6.5 Ghz and cost € 299 ?
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Your third argument is the one that makes the most sense to convince me, but on the other hand, this rumour says that the GTX 760 will have a 256-bit memory bus, so it won't be a GTX 660 Ti rebrand, so what do you reckon could be the differentiator if they later introduce a GTX 760 Ti ? Maybe they fused off more cores for the GTX 760, but kept the 256-bit memory bus to keep performance more consistent ? Perhaps it will ship with 1152 cores and cost € 199, and the GTX 760 Ti will be a GTX 670 rebrand with the memory at 6.5 Ghz and cost € 299 ?

If NVIDIA wants to keep 256-bit memory buses down through the ~$199 mark then a straight rebrand of the 660 Ti is out, as the primary difference between it and the 670 was the memory bus.

The simplest solution for NVIDIA would then be to have a 670 rebrand as the 760 Ti and a modified GTX 660 OEM (changed to have a 256-bit bus and 2GB of VRAM) as the 760.
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660 [OEM]        GK104 1152  96  24   6  823   888  5800 192  1536 130 $N/A
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I really wish nvidia would put at least 3gb on their cards.
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If NVIDIA wants to keep 256-bit memory buses down through the ~$199 mark then a straight rebrand of the 660 Ti is out, as the primary difference between it and the 670 was the memory bus.

The simplest solution for NVIDIA would then be to have a 670 rebrand as the 760 Ti and a modified GTX 660 OEM (changed to have a 256-bit bus and 2GB of VRAM) as the 760.
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NAME              CHIP CUDA TMU ROP SMX BASE BOOST MEMCL BUS MEMSZ TDP MSRP
660 [OEM]        GK104 1152  96  24   6  823   888  5800 192  1536 130 $N/A
660 Ti           GK104 1344 112  24   7  915   980  6008 192  2048 150 $299 
670              GK104 1344 112  32   7  915   980  6008 256  2048 170 $399


Hmm, so they already have a 1152 core GPU (they could always make one, but still, it goes to show their yields probably tend to favour them doing this), thanks I wasn't aware of that! Rep+

This would be a good idea if it happened, Nvidia gets to sell their GK104 stock and customers are happy to have a card with 2 GB of VRAM and a 256-bit memory bus.
 
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