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Phantom Menace 2: all aboard the Haswell train!

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#1 ·
Hi all,

Just figured I would log my experience with Haswell to help others in the community.

I just ordered some parts:

-i7 4770K
-Gigabyte GA-Z87X-OC
-2x4GB Corsair Vengeance Pro 2133MHz

The rest of my parts will be from my current rig:

-EVGA GTX680 SC Signature+
-Corsairr HX1000 PSU
-2x Corsair Force 3 SSDs
-Recon3D Sound Card
-Corsair H100 cooler

Building in a Phantom 820 case that I'm going to customize a little. Not much. Just changing some fans, removing some cages and filters and things.
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More to come.

-Noodle
 
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#2 ·
Got some parts in
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http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_092708_zpse9547d9e.jpg.html

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_092843_zpsa62a144e.jpg.html

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_093054_zpsc302473c.jpg.html

Those little red clips on the RAM didn't quite match my color scheme
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So I removed them
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. Going to re-paint them at some point. Orange of course.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_093824_zpsa7c4ff5a.jpg.html

Some additional hardware I had lying around
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http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_095909_zpse57ac1b6.jpg.html

My new Phantom 820. Stripped the case down and removed all of the fans to make room for super sexytime Xigmatek fans.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_154747_zps27f96647.jpg.html

I usually remove hard drive cages to improve airflow and because I like minimalist designs, so I'm using this little thing to hold my SSDs. It actually makes cabling a little easier too since both drives are really close to the optical drives now.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_162046_zps39ac6d05.jpg.html

Mobo mounted. This case is so huge...

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_162109_zps19d96044.jpg.html

And after everything is connected... the result is quite a mess
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took an hour and a lot of zip ties to clean this up

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130608_202711_zps5164e87c.jpg.html

Pretty clean inside though:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_130012_zps3d6ba3ab.jpg.html

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_130135_zps5b2e1d10.jpg.html

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_130153_zps70b8306b.jpg.html

Still some work to be done but right now it looks alright
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http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/computer_zps4ddc046f.jpg.html

Update

So remember those pesky memory clips that were a color we didn't like? Well I went to town on those.

First to sand them down a little so the primer will stick. Just scuffed 'em up a little.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_213403_zpsc0a3c4fa.jpg.html

Primed

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_214649_zpsd887117f.jpg.html

Orange
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http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130609_222546_zps726350ef.jpg.html

Once they've dried for a few days I'll pop them on
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Update

So I got impatient
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The orange clips on the ram do look much better, if you ask me...



Update

Some more pics for you. The inside of my case.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130611_235103_zpsc0af49bd.jpg.html

This is what my computer would look like if it were in a JJ Abrams film
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http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130611_235153_zps44eebd78.jpg.html

The outside:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130612_000001_zpsc986df26.jpg.html

And finally with the lights out (crappy phone camera picture). It's very TRON.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130612_000052_zps4654b4a9.jpg.html

Update

HOKAY: so the water cooling stuff didn't fit... have to do some modification to the chassis. Time to bring out the drill and dremel.

First this drive cage thing in front of the perfectly good 200mm fan needed to go. 6 rivets later...

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130625_221146_zps35ae02b2.jpg.html

Then I had to take out the drive bays so I could make some cuts and put them back. Another 6 rivets later:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130625_222811_zps8fc1efe7.jpg.html

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130626_001941_zps74eb49ae.jpg.html

Now for the removed drive cage.. did some dremeling to allow for the rad to fit nicely.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130626_001409_zps6a22e781.jpg.html

Gotta smooth out those edges a little bit more but it's lookin good. Next step is to rivet it back in and get the water cooling set up!

Update:

So after that dremeling, it still didn't fit :/

So I did a little bit more dremeling. Cut some more out of that drive bay cage.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130626_200228_zps285972c6.jpg.html

Fits nicely now.

Riveted it back into the case:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/noodlegts/media/20130626_205847_zps3f656680.jpg.html

Update:

So once that drive cage was dremeled... I was able to fit the radiator I wanted up top!

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/no...m Menace/20141208_235011_zps362c7d09.jpg.html

And now my water loop is set up!

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/no...m Menace/20141209_000000_zpsd124448f.jpg.html

Have a bay reservoir / pump in the front. Res is EK, pump is Swiftech D5:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/no...m Menace/20141209_000018_zpsb0c66c74.jpg.html

With the drive cages all removed, had to mount the SSDs somewhere. Figured this is as good as anywhere. The back one is screwed into the chassis by 1 screw. The front one is velcroed to the back one. Hahahahaha. But it looks legt:

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/no...m Menace/20141208_235053_zps3dec25fa.jpg.html

Also the sound proofing material is applied. Helps a little bit with the high pitched stuff.

http://s282.photobucket.com/user/no...m Menace/20141209_000153_zps63cbaea1.jpg.html
 
#3 ·
Reserved.
 
#4 ·
Update. Lots of pics and stuff.
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First thing I'm running into with this case.. I want the front LED strips to be orange, but I want the case to be lit up white inside. Since you can't separate the colors I'm going to have to turn the inside LEDs off and then mount a separate white LED strip. Have one around here somehwere. Will get to it soon.

Also it's time to start overclocking this beast. Really good temps right now at stock. We'll see... 22-23C idle, 49C full load under LinX.
 
#7 ·
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Nice looking rig!!
One question though, where did you get you Corsair Vengeance Pros?
Thanks. Newegg!
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Nice rig!
Thanks
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still working on it!
 
#9 ·
Started overclocking.

Looking good so far... just stuck the voltage at 1.25v and put the multiplier at 45. BAM. Tried 46 but got a Windows 8 baby blue screen of "
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we ran into some problems."

Obviously more stability testing needed but it's promising.

 
#10 ·
Evidently, it takes a little more than just increasing CPU voltage and multiplier to overclock Haswell.

Was able to survive 20 loops of LinX but as soon as I tried Prime95 my temps skyrocketed to 100C and I BSODed soon after. Need to look into it, apparently there are other things to tweak
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#12 ·
Good morning!

Well I have some good news.

So using 1.2v vcore, 1.9 vrin, 1.1 ring voltage, I'm about 7 hours prime 95 stable now. I had tried the same speed with higher vcore but not tweaking these other settings and it failed miserably. So it pays to be patient and tweak everything.



EDIT - See below, this was not actually stable.
Computer fell asleep for a few hours -_________-
 
#13 ·
Update.. mounted my painted ram. Looks much better
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Pics in the front page.
 
#14 ·
Good overclocking on haswell sofar. I've seen some really high voltages for the clocks some people have been working at...definitely around or higher voltage than even my i5-2500K.... 1.280V stable @ 4.5Ghz...I like it!
 
#15 ·
Wow NoodleGTS thats some serious Shiny Shiny

I have just taken one those xigmatek orange with white lights out of my case, as it was making a right racket.
mounted in the top exhausting.

replaced with Enermax Cluster 140mm, and while not on PWM yet, its much quieter, with just a WHOOSH,
the fans are white with white lights, which hopefully might be an option for your internals.

Loving the build, keep us updated on your OC.
 
#16 ·
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Wow NoodleGTS thats some serious Shiny Shiny
I'm all about the shiny shiny
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Posted some night shots. Still stability testing OC but right now it looks like 4.4GHz stable at 1.22v
 
#17 ·
Now build a blue one for the other portal!
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I built my system last night, and would you know it, 1st world problem, my True Spirit 140 is too big, it intrudes on PCI-E slot 1.
booo!

Looking good NoodleGTS the temperatures are a tad high though, do you intend to mess with the cooling more?
 
#18 ·
Remember when I said I was stable? Well, I wasn't. Stupid Windows 8 made my computer fall asleep for most of that test so it was only about 3 hours of actual testing.

1.225vcore gets me stable at 4.4GHz for reals.
Other settings: 2.0v vrin, 1.15v ring, 1.65v ram, 44x multiplier, and 2133MHz on the ram. That's all I've touched so far.

 
#19 ·
Here's a 3DMark 13 run at 4.5GHz and stock GPU clocks.

 
#20 ·
11 hours Prime 95 stable and still going at 4.4GHz, 1.225vcore.

Time to crank it up and go for higher
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#21 ·
With how nice this new case is and how hot my Haswell is getting, I've decided to ditch the Corsair H100 and go back to real water cooling
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...except this time, the case actually has mounting holes for everything and I've planned it out very well. Neither of those things applied to my TJ07 build which I ended up just winging...

Hopefully the result will be a very clean loop that i can remove entirely from the system without having to touch the other components.

So I ordered some parts today:

*** HOT *** XSPC Raystorm CPU Waterblock - Intel
*** NEW *** mod/smart Kobra Cable 8pin PCI-E Extension - Black - 16 Inch
*** NEW *** PrimoFlex Advanced LRT Tubing - 3/8in. ID X 1/2in. OD - Crystal Clear
*** NEW *** XSPC X2O DC-750 - Dual 5.25" Bay-Res Pump/Reservoir Combo - V4 - Acrylic
Akasa PaxMate PLUS Premium Noise Reduction Kit
Black Ice Xtreme 3 High Performance Radiator - Black
Fluid XP+ ECO EARTH - Liquid Cooling Fluid - Burnt Orange
NZXT Single Sleeve 6-Pin VGA (PCI-Express) Extension 10" - Black
Swiftech ⅜" x ½" Lok-Seal™ Compression Fitting - Black
Swiftech 90° Swivel Elbow Lok-Seal™ Adapter - Black

This build will be getting a lot more fun very soon.

Basically I just want to make the loop as unobtrusive as possible. The CPU block just unscrews from the socket and I have full access to motherboard etc.

Check out my hax paint skilz

 
#22 ·
Got some parts in today
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More work tomorrow.

 
#23 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoodleGTS View Post

Good morning!

Well I have some good news.

So using 1.2v vcore, 1.9 vrin, 1.1 ring voltage, I'm about 7 hours prime 95 stable now. I had tried the same speed with higher vcore but not tweaking these other settings and it failed miserably. So it pays to be patient and tweak everything.



EDIT - See below, this was not actually stable.
Computer fell asleep for a few hours -_________-
This interests me. I've got my 2600k at 4.6 (1.35 Vcore) doing a Prime95 blend with 90% RAM and my temps are mid-80s as of 2.5hrs in, with similar max temps to yours. If this holds stable by the time I get home from work tomorrow then I'm going to run Linx and see if my temps are much lower like yours were.

What Prime test do you run?
 
#24 ·
Updatessss

Did some drilling and dremeling
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#25 ·
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Originally Posted by BBEG View Post

This interests me. I've got my 2600k at 4.6 (1.35 Vcore) doing a Prime95 blend with 90% RAM and my temps are mid-80s as of 2.5hrs in, with similar max temps to yours. If this holds stable by the time I get home from work tomorrow then I'm going to run Linx and see if my temps are much lower like yours were.

What Prime test do you run?
The blended one. Latest version of Prime. Gets VERY HOT. I've actually put off more stress testing until my water cooling loop is done.
 
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