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Well, i'm bored.

I'm tempted to give New Vegas another chance. I love the fallout games but wow, the engine is terrible. I've been modding these games since oblivion and in fact, alot of my hardware purchases were based around these sorts of games, and regardless of what money (or time) i threw at them, they always still consistently ran like garbage.

As i've been out of it for some time, i can't remember what mods are worth getting, nor do i remember the best configurations to reduce crashing. I've already attempted to mod the game now and i get black textures when running NMC's texture pack (Even with the 4GB patch, correctly configured) and CTD's that are far too frequent. I really want some graphical enhancements because the vanilla game just looks absolutely terrible - even on release i thought it looked bad.

I may just abandon all attempts really like i did before, unless you guys can offer some tips on what mods to get, and whats the best configuration to reduce problems.

Any idea's anyone?
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Fresh install + all of these mods works perfectly. It only crashes for me when loading quicksaves in modded areas, and even then such a crash is very rare.

http://www.gnd-tech.com/content/930-Fallout-New-Vegas-Modding-Guide

Disable the DOF effect in Project Reality and it will run with ease. 60 FPS won't be a problem then. If you can, enable Ambient Occlusion since it's disabled by default. This will help with the visuals.
Edited by boredgunner - 6/6/13 at 10:29am
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Just go back to Fallout 3 dude. That's where the real fun is at. If your worried about Gfwl with FO3, install the Gfwl disabler from fallout 3 nexus.
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Just go back to Fallout 3 dude. That's where the real fun is at. If your worried about Gfwl with FO3, install the Gfwl disabler from fallout 3 nexus.

Fallout 3 is even more unstable. I wouldn't even call my build of NV unstable at all.
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I've hardly had any crashes on it. The only ones I get frequently is sometimes when I'm exiting a building, or shooting long distances.
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I've hardly had any crashes on it. The only ones I get frequently is sometimes when I'm exiting a building, or shooting long distances.

Yeah Fallout 3 is really weird. For me there's no predictable pattern for when it crashes. Some areas just temporarily become "crash zones", as in, the game crashes if I stay there too long. If I go somewhere else for a while and return, it will be fine.
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Fallout 3 is even more unstable. I wouldn't even call my build of NV unstable at all.

I concur, I've played with both games heavily modded. And unfortunately Fallout 3 my favorite one over NV was more unstable. frown.gif
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The biggest problem across both titles is the hassle i gotta deal with to enable it to read/write over 4GB, a necessity if i want even more necessary mods to run. NV seems to be even harder as i can't use CFF explorer to modify the EXE, due to steam having a hissy fit about it. The only thing that works is a exe you run that modifies it before the game is lauched, but it took me a couple of hours to find a version that also allowed NVSE and my mods to also run correctly.

I've managed to get NV to work again thanks to help here, so i appreciate it. Personally i think NV isn't as good as Fallout 3 in terms of enviroment/story, however, it is a slightly more stable game with less CTD's but it compensates with more odd bugs. One being NPC's "falling" into the ground or running across it in peculiar ways.

Good games but man do i despise this absolutely dreadful engine. I had a feeling neither game would see any real patches addressing their problems, and with NV i swore to not invest too much time troubleshooting it. If it played up, i'd abandon it. And thats exactly what i did after only doing the main quest when it was released.

I sank too many hours into Fallout 3 when trying to rectify persistent CTD's, to the point i spent money on new hardware, and it never worked. On the plus, i'd say i'm extremely familiar with modding Bethesda's games under this engine which carried over into Skyrim, to which i successfully run 170 mods with no problems (But again limitations of the engine itself in regard to performance issues get in the way. Primarily how it optimizes CPU time for scripts)
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Yeah Fallout 3 is really weird. For me there's no predictable pattern for when it crashes. Some areas just temporarily become "crash zones", as in, the game crashes if I stay there too long. If I go somewhere else for a while and return, it will be fine.

Yeah, it was my problem too. I developed the patience of a saint due to the amount of times i ended up crashing in certain area's. I just lost the will to get mad because it happend so frequently.
Edited by Thingamajig - 6/9/13 at 10:46am
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I got my Fallout 3 pretty stable, with an absolute ton of mods, even mods that weren't supposed to work together.. But I did find that having insufficient hardware caused CTD with my setup. As in, I have to little vram for the amount of mods I used, and in some areas the game would just give up because to much was going on. If I set settings to low, it will run fine with little to no crashes, but the engine just just seems to crash if it is working to hard.

I would suggest following this series for New Vegas, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-3c1a9cLL8

It looks like he has some videos about performance within his playlist, or this one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plWow9dGI70&list=SP0E5E8CA384409B11&index=8

I used his Fallout 3 tutorials as a base, it had several mods/tweaks to increase performance which were excellent.
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