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I mainly want AMD to succeed since I don't want NVIDIA or Intel to go completely unopposed (although right now Intel pretty much does that...)

I'll be excited to see as many games multiplat on PC as possible too. I hate touching the console over the PC unless I absolutely have to
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Good news AMD.
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Originally Posted by Fuell View Post

Can't wait! Multicore gaming will be a norm for Console to PC ports. BD rigs and up might see themselves become some pretty good budget gaming CPU's in a year or two.

BD is already a good budget gaming CPU.
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Originally Posted by OverclockerFox View Post

One board released by ASUS is not the same as support built into the CPU and chipset. Are you unaware that third-party solutions are not preferred to first-party ones, by most people who know hardware?

Secondly, this is a community where people /do/ count and obsess over each frame per second, and each extra mhz they can squeeze out of their machinery. So yes, it is worth mentioning, even if it's not perceptible without testing. FOR EXAMPLE, if you're trying to overclock a mid-end card so that it can cope with a technically demanding game, it /might/ make some difference, it it's, say, the difference between 27 and 30 frames per second, between the overclock on the card and the slight speed boost of PCI-E 3.0.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

I'm sorry, that went over your head. I shall try to be more literal in my replies to you in the future.

and.... what was that sound? Was that the sound of a 4-core owner trying to make fun of me? laugher.gif

Moving on....


It's hardly a "crippled system". Half-built, maybe. I prefer not to waste money on intermediate parts, except if I really need to. Like this board that can host more items and overclock better than that postage stamp I was on before.


Did you just describe consoles as "next generation systems"? Wow. You really know absolutely nothing about hardware, do you? If you had been following the news on the new round of consoles, you'd know their hardware is maybe somewhat equivalent to a low-end PC. Hardly next-gen. Please explain in detail how you would consider them "next-gen".

Now as to the OP article, this just seems like more AMD marketing fluff. The article says nothing in detail about what this "unified gaming strategy" is supposed to be. It just seems like AMD is bragging about how its' hardware is in the two new consoles, under the guise of suggesting that this will make porting games easier.

Using Unified memory makes them next gen.
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Why make a port when they can just make the game for both consoles and pc. Albeit is a good idea, BUT developers may get lazy and just port all of their games. Cryengine 3 already has a way of making the game for both consoles and pc all at the same time. Since AMD has been working with Crytek maybe this might push forward the quality of games all together. Yes I just contradicted myself.
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i think the problem w AMD's stock is simply the fact that they've innovated practically nothing the last few years. yes BD was a bit of a let down, but it has improved pretty well since release and its a very good budget system.

but intel and nvidia have the ability to throw so much more at the consumer to show them what they get for the dollar

for instance: (and im not trying to start a flame war here)

intel ssd cache (again not quite a raid array)
hyperthreading (no one can argue the benefits of this)
multi channel memory (beyond dual)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
physx (yes i know its not for every game and in a lot of cases a lil wonky)
3d gaming(yes amd has it, but product compatability is absolute crap)

now with that being said, id like to see intel and nvidia pick up some traits that amd has accomplished

Pricing (still somewhat arguable at times)
much easier(or at least it was a year or so back, havnt looked real recently) and cheaper to get an x16x16x16x16 board on team red(regardless of cpu bottleneck)
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i think the problem w AMD's stock is simply the fact that they've innovated practically nothing the last few years. yes BD was a bit of a let down, but it has improved pretty well since release and its a very good budget system.

but intel and nvidia have the ability to throw so much more at the consumer to show them what they get for the dollar

for instance: (and im not trying to start a flame war here)

intel ssd cache (again not quite a raid array)
hyperthreading (no one can argue the benefits of this)
multi channel memory (beyond dual)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
physx (yes i know its not for every game and in a lot of cases a lil wonky)
3d gaming(yes amd has it, but product compatability is absolute crap)

now with that being said, id like to see intel and nvidia pick up some traits that amd has accomplished

Pricing (still somewhat arguable at times)
much easier(or at least it was a year or so back, havnt looked real recently) and cheaper to get an x16x16x16x16 board on team red(regardless of cpu bottleneck)
sockets that last for several generations and generally have all the same features as newer boards
crossfireX, if you could SLIX a 690 w a 680/670 ect... WOOP
CPU overclocking is a lil more standard on the red side as it still follows pretty close to the traditional methods

I can. Come play with me in the land of Enterprise and learn how harmful Hyper Threading can be. For one, it plays absolute hell with VMs, and it will actually hurt programs that are optimized correctly.

AMD had quad before Intel with Socket G34.
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I can. Come play with me in the land of Enterprise and learn how harmful Hyper Threading can be. For one, it plays absolute hell with VMs, and it will actually hurt programs that are optimized correctly.

AMD had quad before Intel with Socket G34.

Very much this, cad work HT bad, also a lot of 3d dev programs don't like it in my experience. Fake cores are worse then weak cores.
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Sounds like good news to me. I just really hope AMD doesnt screw itself over by making games run like crap on intel/nvidia rigs. Considering that is the majority of rigs.

I would find it rather amusing if this happens. AMD wouldn't screw themselves over. If AMD cpus offered the better performance, then people will want AMD cpus. That's how it goes. Have a taste of your own medicine Intel lachen.gif
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One board released by ASUS is not the same as support built into the CPU and chipset. Are you unaware that third-party solutions are not preferred to first-party ones, by most people who know hardware?

Secondly, this is a community where people /do/ count and obsess over each frame per second, and each extra mhz they can squeeze out of their machinery. So yes, it is worth mentioning, even if it's not perceptible without testing. FOR EXAMPLE, if you're trying to overclock a mid-end card so that it can cope with a technically demanding game, it /might/ make some difference, it it's, say, the difference between 27 and 30 frames per second, between the overclock on the card and the slight speed boost of PCI-E 3.0.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

I'm sorry, that went over your head. I shall try to be more literal in my replies to you in the future.

and.... what was that sound? Was that the sound of a 4-core owner trying to make fun of me? laugher.gif

Moving on....


It's hardly a "crippled system". Half-built, maybe. I prefer not to waste money on intermediate parts, except if I really need to. Like this board that can host more items and overclock better than that postage stamp I was on before.


Did you just describe consoles as "next generation systems"? Wow. You really know absolutely nothing about hardware, do you? If you had been following the news on the new round of consoles, you'd know their hardware is maybe somewhat equivalent to a low-end PC. Hardly next-gen. Please explain in detail how you would consider them "next-gen".

Now as to the OP article, this just seems like more AMD marketing fluff. The article says nothing in detail about what this "unified gaming strategy" is supposed to be. It just seems like AMD is bragging about how its' hardware is in the two new consoles, under the guise of suggesting that this will make porting games easier.


lachen.gif

"But but but but...I could....", No. If you could have have you would have. You sit here and try to speak about hardware and tech as if you actually know what you are talking about, when you clearly don't. I am not even the only person telling you this. Oh well....

If you don't even understand what is "Next Gen" about the next consoles, hUMA as it will impact the PC segment, or the other topics at hand, you are truly in the wrong place. You try and talk about AMD as a whole, then narrow down to our very small and specific community when faced with facts (Like with PCI-E 2.0 vs 3.0). You can't have both.....so deal with that.

Please, crawl out of the basement, do some research and then come have an adult discussion about the tech.
    
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