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[TR, VR-Zone] Leaked desktop roadmap suggests Haswell refresh in 2014, no Broadwell in sight

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I hope you like Haswell, because it looks like the chip might be around for a while. An official-looking roadmap published by VR-Zone suggests that Broadwell, Intel's next-next-gen processor, won't arrive on the desktop until 2015 at the earliest. Broadwell is expected to be fabricated using 14-nm process technology, and it could come to notebooks before migrating to the desktop. The leaked slide only addresses desktop processors, which will apparently sport refreshed Haswell silicon about a year from now. The incremental upgrade may not deliver much more than a clock speed bump, though.
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At least as far as Haswell is concerned, the roadmap posted by VR-Zone matches what we've heard from one of our trusted sources in the motherboard industry.

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With AMD still playing catch up, there isn't much reason for Intel to behave any differently. Let's hope Steamroller brings some surprise, perhaps Intel has to lower the price of the six core CPUs and maybe even introduce them to the mainstream socket.
Edited by tpi2007 - 6/6/13 at 10:27am
 
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i hope to find answer what gonna do with haswell refresh !rolleyes.gif
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I'm calling BS. Nobody would label a slide "Haswell Refresh". Especially not when there is a codename to be had. Nor would they highlight it.
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If that's the case, I won't regret going with Haswell for a new build as Broadwell is still a long way to go. Beside, I could upgrade to Broadwell since its compatible to socket 1150. Hopefully Steamroller arrives before I'm going with Haswell and hopefully its good enough.
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I'm calling BS. Nobody would label a slide "Haswell Refresh". Especially not when there is a codename to be had. Nor would they highlight it.

You might be surprised at how simplistic deep internal material is with Intel, and other large corporations.
    
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That chart is most likely made up from the information they gathered, as the original source (Chinese VR-Zone) has two charts with different color schemes, you can check them out here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fchinese.vr-zone.com%2F&act=url

Since TR says one of their trusted sources is telling them the same information, I guess they just compiled the things they know into a chart, it's not necessarily official, but the information should be reliable.
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So... they're rolling out another mb chipset for haswell refresh and only a clock speed increase with no extra cores?

Just dumbfounded, intel has no respect for its customers. Who wants to make a bet that this thing will continue using cheap TIM?
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22nm just hit with IVY 1 year ago and you expect 14nm to be ready after only 2 year?
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So... they're rolling out another mb chipset for haswell refresh and only a clock speed increase with no extra cores?

Just dumbfounded, intel has no respect for its customers. Who wants to make a bet that this thing will continue using cheap TIM?

The name of the game is profit not performance (at least certainly not IPC or clock speed performance).


Examples of profit over performance:
Haswell continues using TIM further exacerbating heat dissipation problems.
The best integrated graphics (Iris Pro 5200) and eDRAM only available for select mobile core i7s. The eDRAM can potentially act as a L4 cache for other applications besides graphics.
No TSX instructions for Haswell K-series processors.

Not to mention:
USB 3.0 sleep chipset issues
Potential incompatibility with certain power supplies due to new low power state
Plus, Haswell requires a brand new socket and therefore new motherboard

On the plus side, Haswell offers some more SATA 6.0 ports and AVX2 instructions (that few if any programs currently support).
    
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