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I was wondering when this would happen as shrinking lower than 14nm gets complicated.
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post #12 of 45
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If an AMD product launch doesn't meet expectations, AMD sucks. If an Intel product launch doesn't meet expectations, AMD sucks. There is no pleasing some people.
Well that is all going to change withing now and 3 years I guess.
New AMD team seems to be up to the job and better prepared for the shift to mobile devices than Intel is.
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Well, Intel better not disappoint with Skylake.
    
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I just want a 4930K that works on my current motherboard. thumb.gif
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post #16 of 45
Maybe instead of going faster, they might consider more, as in more cores muhahaha. Bring back the multi core race.
I'm happy that the 1150 socket will have some time for itself.
Edited by HYPERDRIVE - 6/6/13 at 11:03am
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Not surprised at this due to the lack of competition.
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post #18 of 45
Honestly, there is zero reason for the average person to buy a new computer. Zero. Software has not caught up with hardware in the last 6 years. I have a 7 year old amd that can run most games at 1080p, with a 3 year old graphics card. ( yes the 6 core intel is way faster then the 2 core amd in games like civ 5, but shows no real differences in games like battle field)

Until software can offer something that the average person wants or needs there is zero reason for intel to release anything with any jump in performance. Heck, there is zero reason for amd to release anything until the software increases.

Once again, before you go on a rant about overclocking, we are talking about average users, you know the 90% of people that buy 90% of their computers from "the big box store" on the advice "of the sales person".

It is not that amd can not keep up competition against intel, they actually do.

When we went from 533mhz to 2 ghz, it was a huge increase. When we went from 2ghz single core to 2 ghz quad core, it was a huge increase. When we went from 3 ghz quad to a 3ghz 12 core, not that big of increase.

Software stopped. Most people could get along all their lives with 2ghz dual core and never notice a problem.

4 years ago, it was could x cpu do what the average person wants it to do, and there was a major differences between the models in what it can do.

Today, there is very little differences in what the average person can do with any of the current amd or intel chips. i3 or i7 extreme, to the average users, no difference.
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So let me get this straight. Intel releases a chip that only focuses on power consumption and doesn't care about performance, and then their excuse for not releasing more chips is that they don't have competition? Uh, wouldn't they rush to 14nm to producer cheaper chips that consume less power? That's their goal, right? Less power consumption? I mean 14nm chips would let Intel compete better with APUs on price, and 14nm would be smaller die, more space for GPU, and more dies per wafer which means cheaper chips.
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Honestly, there is zero reason for the average person to buy a new computer. Zero. Software has not caught up with hardware in the last 6 years. I have a 7 year old amd that can run most games at 1080p, with a 3 year old graphics card. ( yes the 6 core intel is way faster then the 2 core amd in games like civ 5, but shows no real differences in games like battle field)

Until software can offer something that the average person wants or needs there is zero reason for intel to release anything with any jump in performance. Heck, there is zero reason for amd to release anything until the software increases.

Once again, before you go on a rant about overclocking, we are talking about average users, you know the 90% of people that buy 90% of their computers from "the big box store" on the advice "of the sales person".

It is not that amd can not keep up competition against intel, they actually do.

When we went from 533mhz to 2 ghz, it was a huge increase. When we went from 2ghz single core to 2 ghz quad core, it was a huge increase. When we went from 3 ghz quad to a 3ghz 12 core, not that big of increase.

Software stopped. Most people could get along all their lives with 2ghz dual core and never notice a problem.

4 years ago, it was could x cpu do what the average person wants it to do, and there was a major differences between the models in what it can do.

Today, there is very little differences in what the average person can do with any of the current amd or intel chips. i3 or i7 extreme, to the average users, no difference.
I sincerely doubt an athlon 64 x2 and a gtx 480 could play games at 1080p, and by play I mean at least 30fps
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