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post #21 of 45
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So let me get this straight. Intel releases a chip that only focuses on power consumption and doesn't care about performance, and then their excuse for not releasing more chips is that they don't have competition? Uh, wouldn't they rush to 14nm to producer cheaper chips that consume less power? That's their goal, right? Less power consumption? I mean 14nm chips would let Intel compete better with APUs on price, and 14nm would be smaller die, more space for GPU, and more dies per wafer which means cheaper chips.
They are already doing that the make their wafers bigger the transistor size doesn't matter for the die size if you gonna size it up to how big the previous gen was anyways.
post #22 of 45
fine by me

I'm going to ride out on my OC'd 3570K and Z77-UD5H for the next 7 years biggrin.gif

If Q6600 can obtain a solid 5-6 years....I can believe 3570K can achieve even better results thumb.gif
     
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post #23 of 45
and these are the same people that say windows 8 hurt pc sales... smh.


why don't they just keep doing what they do "mac os x" might find some use for their cpus...
    
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post #24 of 45
as long as i get 50fps on ultra @1440p in 95% of games i dont see a reason to upgrade 775 motherboard and my q9550@3.4 ... i would like to, but they simply dont give me a reason enough

i mean i might be even thinking about z77 mb + i7 2600k so that i have sata3 and cpu with proper TIM to OC as high as possible, but then their prices are not going down either. terrible stagflation ...

best
revro
post #25 of 45
This is what I hate about companies.

I was going to post something useful, but there's no competition because I'm so awesome. Why waste the energy posting things readers want to see? I'm just going to sit back and wait for someone else to post something interesting then I will respond.
Edited by aweir - 6/6/13 at 1:32pm
post #26 of 45
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Honestly, there is zero reason for the average person to buy a new computer. Zero. Software has not caught up with hardware in the last 6 years. I have a 7 year old amd that can run most games at 1080p, with a 3 year old graphics card. ( yes the 6 core intel is way faster then the 2 core amd in games like civ 5, but shows no real differences in games like battle field)

Until software can offer something that the average person wants or needs there is zero reason for intel to release anything with any jump in performance. Heck, there is zero reason for amd to release anything until the software increases.

Once again, before you go on a rant about overclocking, we are talking about average users, you know the 90% of people that buy 90% of their computers from "the big box store" on the advice "of the sales person".

It is not that amd can not keep up competition against intel, they actually do.

When we went from 533mhz to 2 ghz, it was a huge increase. When we went from 2ghz single core to 2 ghz quad core, it was a huge increase. When we went from 3 ghz quad to a 3ghz 12 core, not that big of increase.

Software stopped. Most people could get along all their lives with 2ghz dual core and never notice a problem.

4 years ago, it was could x cpu do what the average person wants it to do, and there was a major differences between the models in what it can do.

Today, there is very little differences in what the average person can do with any of the current amd or intel chips. i3 or i7 extreme, to the average users, no difference.

This has to be about one of the most misinformed posts I have ever seen on this forum, aside of pure hate and prejudice towards a product.
    
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post #27 of 45
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So let me get this straight. Intel releases a chip that only focuses on power consumption and doesn't care about performance, and then their excuse for not releasing more chips is that they don't have competition? Uh, wouldn't they rush to 14nm to producer cheaper chips that consume less power? That's their goal, right? Less power consumption? I mean 14nm chips would let Intel compete better with APUs on price, and 14nm would be smaller die, more space for GPU, and more dies per wafer which means cheaper chips.

their goal is to make money.
if 14nm products were available in 2014, they would bring in the same revenue as they would've in 2015 (at the expense of Haswell)
why invest $10B+ in 2014 when you can do it a year later ?

bottom line, PC Market is in decline, and it affects everyone.
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post #28 of 45
Cpu's already compute fast enough. Its the memory interface that is heavily lagging behind, Intel has to go the AMD way, integrating cpu to gpgpu and shortening memory circuit pathways to improve latencies any further.
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post #29 of 45
So much for upgrading to Skylake and DDR4 in 2015.
     
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post #30 of 45
With the rather meh release of Haswell (except for mobile), and no expected releases from Intel until 2015...

Yep, only AMD can shoot themselves with Steamroller/Kaveri in this situation.
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