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no you only need powered risers with more than 3 cards

im not sure about 290's? someone else may have to confirm that one with them being quite high wattage?

there is actually quite a few mancs on here but they are not very active tbh.

I've searched all over and can't seem to find an answer maybe I should just buy the powered ones?
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I've searched all over and can't seem to find an answer maybe I should just buy the powered ones?

From what I've read online a x4 should be enough for a mid range card. anything else should be powered.
x16 shouldn't need powered risers.

Just for the sake of it I'll get all powered ones so I don't melt my MB.
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I've searched all over and can't seem to find an answer maybe I should just buy the powered ones?

I would personally, it will take some stress off the mobo anyway.

im sure some 290x owners here will be able to tell you?

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I have a crappy Corsair CX 750W and a crappy AM3+ mobo with an fx-8320 on it at home. Got powered risers etc. Will the PSU be able to kick about 4x R9 270s?
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This totally depends on your perspective and ultimate goals:

1) Quick and (relatively) easy money: use us.trademybit.com or middlecoin.com and exchange everything into BTC and then immediately into fiat or goods. Minimum risk, consistent (though also minimal reward). You can also use this to focus on a single coin during it's early stage without concern - provided it is on an exchange somewhere and hope for adequate returns. This would be KorruptedKaos' method.

2) Medium term with variable work requirement: use either us.trademybit.com or multipool.us or coinwarz and independent pools by coin and exchange. This requires a little more skill and research as something won't be profitable long (most likely) as it will be being dumped by all the big pools around the same time - thus driving the exchange price down each time. Coins with limited potential should be dumped quickly but timed during pumps - coins with good potential or growing popularity can be held for longer to get greater returns down the road. This would be similar to Jeffinslaw's methodology - although he also falls into category 3 somewhat.

3) Long term wealth building. This is where I fit in. I pick coins that I believe in personally and see long term growth potential in, either due to technology/market share (BTC/PPC/WDC/NMC) or popularity and application (BTC/LTC/DOGE). I then always provide some hash to the most profitable within those coins only - for two reasons, one to get coins for long term return potential, and two simply because my mining operation is helping provide a stable transaction backbone to said coin. Then the rest of my hashrate I focus on pump-n-dump coins that I don't feel have long-term potential but have great short term profitability (MAX/UTC/VTC/DGC/TIPS/MOON/???) and then pick one or two total 'wildcards' (like NUT) which have virtually no profitability nor popularity in comparison... because it costs me nearly nothing to acquire over time (difficulty stays low because huge pools aren't mining) and BTC was once like this when I originally started mining it.

I held on to my BTC through people telling me that they would never again be worth $1/ea through people saying they'll be worth $1M/ea someday... I didn't believe either of those types of people - but I believed in the concept. Now it doesn't matter what a BTC is worth on a daily basis... mine all combined cost me something like $2/ea in electricity and GPUs I wanted to buy anyway. smile.gif

How you go about mining/trading/spending cryptos is no different than it is with fiat in reality. You can take your paycheck and immediately spend it on stuff you want/need (#1), or you can spend some of it and save some of it for later on (#2), or you can invest nearly all of it in hopes that it will later be worth more than anything you could have bought with it in the short term (#3). Nearly all of that depends on your age, income, desires, philosophy, etc.. There really isn't a 'better' or 'worse' way... they're just different paths to different goals... pick the one that works for you. wink.gif

As far as what you're doing... I also have miners working on DOGE at the moment - and will continue to do so no matter how high the diff gets. For that matter I've also invested BTC into DOGE to increase my holdings (thankfully before the current rise in value) - but I mine it solely to provide hashrate and stability to transactions... because I personally believe that it will outlast LTC, and possibly even BTC. Not because it's better (it's not) or because it makes sense (it doesn't) but simply because more people actually use it on a daily basis than LTC and more people want it currently. kookoo.gif Couple that with the fact that it's actually designed right (although accidentally) so that there isn't a hard limit to it's mintage... and I think you have a winner that can go the distance (regardless of how unbelieveably stupid I feel every time I open the wallet). biggrin.gif

Thank you, when I am at work, I mine phrotoshares however when I am at home I mine dogecoin. So from 17:15pm to 11:00am its DOGEcoin and from and after 11:00am - 17:15 pm its phrotoshares
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ok so
if you had $5k to make a mining rig would you go with several scrypt based ones or ASIC?

Didn't you ask this a couple of times already?
Maybe, i dont have a great memory :DDD
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Didn't you ask this a couple of times already?

lol he did xD

Dude, read the disclaimer, first post...we hate asics man, we're miners, the heart and soul of the BTC community. xD
We shalt choose which algo to use, and won't support crappy asicscammers.

but... but
gpus are way less efficient and more expensive to run
 
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ok so
if you had $5k to make a mining rig would you go with several scrypt based ones or ASIC?

Didn't you ask this a couple of times already?
Maybe, i dont have a great memory :DDD
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Didn't you ask this a couple of times already?

lol he did xD

Dude, read the disclaimer, first post...we hate asics man, we're miners, the heart and soul of the BTC community. xD
We shalt choose which algo to use, and won't support crappy asicscammers.

but... but
gpus are way less efficient and more expensive to run

Then stop asking us if you're so sure. Order yourself the asics, let us know when you get it, and when you've made the ROI.

We strongly believe in going the GPU route because the difficulty rises so quickly when more ASICs gets used that it takes a heck of a lot longer to the ROI. The difficulty isn't going to be static.

With GPU's, there's always a developer making a new coin that is more ASIC resistance. When new GPU's are out, we sell our old ones to gamers. With ASICs, once they're useless because the difficulty is too high, they're useless... no one will buy them used.

We've already gave you our answers. What you choose to do with it is up to you. Stop asking it again and again if you've already made up your mind.
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I have a crappy Corsair CX 750W and a crappy AM3+ mobo with an fx-8320 on it at home. Got powered risers etc. Will the PSU be able to kick about 4x R9 270s?

Should be OK, undervolt the cards a bit and your looking @ 125-130w per card, Thats ~520W for the Gpu's and another 230w for the rest.
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I would personally, it will take some stress off the mobo anyway.

im sure some 290x owners here will be able to tell you?

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I've used 3 unpowered risers on 3 R9 290 on a X58 SLI no problems.
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Should be OK, undervolt the cards a bit and your looking @ 125-130w per card, Thats ~520W for the Gpu's and another 230w for the rest.

Awesome, Ill let you guys know when we get the cards smile.gif.

Any speculations on PTS? Is PTS or Doge the strong contender for AMD mining atm? Ive grown sort of fond of PTS while doing my 780 mining at the moment smile.gif.
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