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I would love to know as well. I just don't understand why profits are in the toilet right now... too many worthless coins flooding the market?

Personally, I think it's because of the quick price jump. Everything is going crazy...I'm willing to bet it'll be settled within the next 12-24 hours. My cards are running nice and cold today, and I'm feeling good about trading in with the price jump, so I'm willing to just let it sit.
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is it nomal the clevermining hashrate is 1600 kh/s to like 1200 kh/s?

Are you saying you should be getting 1600kh and clever is only showing 1200? I'm in that same boat. Probably should be at 1.4MH, but I'm only consistently at 1.2MH
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You stop supporting the very cause for coins tanking and start finding coins yourself to mine.

Definitely not the very cause of coins tanking. I could see how it could contribute, but coins will always be up and down as long as it's this easy to pump'n'dump. Also, I tried that for a while. I really liked Doge, but it changes around too much, and they had the wallet problem or whatever which completely halted everything. I was on a pool with 4,000 miners (even after the halvening) and then that crap happens, and the pool is down to <1000. I don't have the time to research, and change what coins I mine every day. I've got maybe an hour to actually tinker with it.
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aaaaand clevermining is tanking...where do I/we go from here?

EDIT: How much does everyone trust coinbase? It seems like they want an awful lot of information to transfer BTC to USD. Couldn't they just use paypal? I really don't feel comfortable giving them all my banking info.

Coinbase is based in the US - so they're doing everything by the book (at least as much as said book has been written thus-far). That's the downside of legality... you lose out big time on the anonymity side of things. You can always trust Bruno down the street or in the dark corners of the Interwebs with your coins... he doesn't ask for any of that stuff - but is also known to just run off without paying you as well. smile.gif

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I would love to know as well. I just don't understand why profits are in the toilet right now... too many worthless coins flooding the market?

That's part of it... but the biggest part is the huge jump in BTC/USD... since next to no alt-coins have any value themselves - or use for that matter - they're valued entirely in BTC... so it follows that if BTC becomes worth much more - they become worth much less BTC. tongue.gif However, if you don't look at the BTC/1Mh/s value, and instead look at the exchange rate of those BTC - it's less of a fluctuation than you'd think.

A week ago clevermining was paying ~.011/Mh - and a BTC was worth ~$475 - now their rate is just under .007/Mh but BTC is worth ~$700. So converted we get: $5.22/Mh and now it's $4.90/Mh... a drop, but not as much as it seems looking solely at the BTC payouts.
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Definitely not the very cause of coins tanking. I could see how it could contribute, but coins will always be up and down as long as it's this easy to pump'n'dump. Also, I tried that for a while. I really liked Doge, but it changes around too much, and they had the wallet problem or whatever which completely halted everything. I was on a pool with 4,000 miners (even after the halvening) and then that crap happens, and the pool is down to <1000. I don't have the time to research, and change what coins I mine every day. I've got maybe an hour to actually tinker with it.

I understand your point - but yes it is definitely the very cause of coins tanking (well that and most coins are crap to begin with). If it weren't for the switcher pools dumping coins on the exchanges all at once - the prices would be completely driven by individual traders. Sure there would be the occasional whale dropping 10M DOGE on to the exchange... but that would be much more rare and they would be much more likely to time and stagger their trades so as not to dump the price too dramatically... after all it's their money. The big switcher pools don't care - because it's not their money... they already got that in the way of fees/reduction of payout... so they can wait until the price drop caused by them dumping a days worth of the pools mining on the exchange to go away... and then sell much higher for their own wallets. smile.gif

Don't get me wrong... I mine multipools from time to time as well - basically when there's not something I really believe is going to last longer than a week in popularity... but sorry, that is EXACTLY where the huge swings in volatility come from (especially on the down-side). All alt-coins with the exception of LTC, DOGE, and a couple others that have actual use outside of speculation are floated entirely on the BTC of investors - they simply don't make any of their own value. So if a pool dumps 100M of a coin on an exchange where there's only 5 BTC worth of buyers... guess what happens to the price... at least until that 100M gets eaten up?

EDIT: Oh, and those pump-n-dumpers... if there wasn't a pool to force the dump farther (because the coin started getting hyper-mined the second it got pumped...) the 'dump' wouldn't smell nearly as bad, or last nearly as long.
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Anyone want to help a guy out with scrypt jane and some 270's. Can't do anything without getting HW errors right away. Trying at stock clocks one card at a time. Using settings from various places. Tried the TC cgminer gave me in the bin file. Everyone says intensity should be around 18 for these cards, I can't even run 12 with HW errors.

Frustrated as hell right now. These cards never work remotely close to any settings I find online. TC is always a problem when I mine scrypt.

--thread-concurrency 16384 -I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --temp-cutoff 90 --temp-overheat 85 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --scan-time 1

I have tried various levels of "I" and "TC". Not having any luck. At -I 12 I don't have HW errors but my WU is like .01% of my hashrate.
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Anyone want to help a guy out with scrypt jane and some 270's. Can't do anything without getting HW errors right away. Trying at stock clocks one card at a time. Using settings from various places. Tried the TC cgminer gave me in the bin file. Everyone says intensity should be around 18 for these cards, I can't even run 12 with HW errors.

Frustrated as hell right now. These cards never work remotely close to any settings I find online. TC is always a problem when I mine scrypt.

--thread-concurrency 16384 -I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --temp-cutoff 90 --temp-overheat 85 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --scan-time 1

I have tried various levels of "I" and "TC". Not having any luck. At -I 12 I don't have HW errors but my WU is like .01% of my hashrate.

I recommend deleting all of the .bin files and running it once with only your shaders specified... at the intensity you're hoping to hit (in your case 18). Let it run then look for what the TC specified in the generated .bin file is... then try using that TC... if you have multiple cards - run it once per card clearing the .bin each time (using the -d flag).
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What Brand/Version of card are you using and if available have you updated to the latest bios?
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Anyone want to help a guy out with scrypt jane and some 270's. Can't do anything without getting HW errors right away. Trying at stock clocks one card at a time. Using settings from various places. Tried the TC cgminer gave me in the bin file. Everyone says intensity should be around 18 for these cards, I can't even run 12 with HW errors.

Frustrated as hell right now. These cards never work remotely close to any settings I find online. TC is always a problem when I mine scrypt.

--thread-concurrency 16384 -I 18 -g 1 -w 256 --temp-cutoff 90 --temp-overheat 85 --queue 0 --no-submit-stale --scan-time 1

I have tried various levels of "I" and "TC". Not having any luck. At -I 12 I don't have HW errors but my WU is like .01% of my hashrate.

I recommend deleting all of the .bin files and running it once with only your shaders specified... at the intensity you're hoping to hit (in your case 18). Let it run then look for what the TC specified in the generated .bin file is... then try using that TC... if you have multiple cards - run it once per card clearing the .bin each time (using the -d flag).
Just tried that at 18. TC is shows is 6400, HW errors instantly. So I delete the bin, drop it to 17, run it, get new TC which is the same, add it to bat file. HW errors instantly. I can't stop the errors and its like that on multiple cards. (But I am doing this one at a time).

Also tried scrypt jave cgminer from two different sources, both do it.
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What Brand/Version of card are you using and if available have you updated to the latest bios?
I have not messed with any bios on the cards they are sapphire.
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Just tried that at 18. TC is shows is 6400, HW errors instantly. So I delete the bin, drop it to 17, run it, get new TC which is the same, add it to bat file. HW errors instantly. I can't stop the errors and its like that on multiple cards. (But I am doing this one at a time).

Also tried scrypt jave cgminer from two different sources, both do it.

If you're getting HW with a TC of 6400 something is very wrong with something - and it doesn't seem like it's with cgminer... more like voltages, driver, memory, or ???

What is the brand & bios revision of the GPU(s), driver version, as well as the AMD SDK version and the cgminer version? Any of those things might hold the clue to the problem.

EDIT: Saw your post... tongue.gif
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I tried different combos of TC and I and my magic # was thread-concurrency 21568, intensity -19, gpu-powertune 5

No hardware errors in 48 hours.

I have an Asus 270x OC Top Edition
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Try running with something very simple first and see if you generate HW with that...

For example (also if you've overclocked via the driver console or afterburner, etc... set it back to default settings for the card(s) and run it like that at first):

cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://stratum.pool.com:3336 -u user.1 -p pass -I 17 -g 1 -w 256 --shaders 1280

- see what TC it generates for the .bin (should probably be 21760 at those settings)... see if HW appear.

- if HW move to -I 16 and check TC again (should be 20480 now).

It's not always exact... but in general you should get close to Intensity*Shadercount for the TC.
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