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So I am planning for a future upgrade to my air-cooled system. I have never done it before, so I went to EKWB to check some things out, and I want to run this list of stuff by y'all and see if this is a good list, if there is anything missing, anything I don't need, or anything that's not compatible or you think something might do better.

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MSI Z77 MPower MB
Core i7 3770K
2x EVGA Geforce GTX 660 Ti (SLI)

Potential Liquid Cooling HW:

EK-CoolStream RAD XT (360)
EK-FC670 GTX - Acetal + Nickel
EK-Supremacy - Acetal + Nickel
Laing D5 Vario 12V DC Pump (MCP 655)
EK-BAY SPIN Reservoir - Acetal CSQ
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 (1850rpm)
TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex™ Advanced LRT™ 15,9 / 11,1mm - Brilliant UV Blue (PFLEXA-758-B)
EK-CSQ Fitting 12/16mm G1/4 - Black
EK-RAD Mount M3 Set (for 1 FAN)
EK-Ekoolant UV BLUE (premix 1000mL)
EK-TIM Indigo Xtreme - Intel 1155&1156
Arctic Cooling MX-3 thermal compound (4g)

So opinions. Any parts missing? Anything I should swap out or don't really need? Better quality items from other brands? Please let me know what you think. Thanks.
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nope all looks good!

only suggestion I can make its better to have a couple of rads instead of just 1 360 rad.

id have 2x 240 or a 360 & 120

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what case are you using? if you can also fit a 240 with the 360, it would be better.
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nope all looks good!

only suggestion I can make its better to have a couple of rads instead of just 1 360 rad.

id have 2x 240 or a 360 & 120

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What would be the benefit of the extra radiator? just more efficient. Is there actually an improvement in cooling?

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what case are you using? if you can also fit a 240 with the 360, it would be better.

Most likely, I would be getting the Corsair Obsidian 900D.

So you are saying have a 240 AND a 360? What's the benefit of having another radiator. Hmm...have the CPU cycle to one Radiator before going to the GPUs, to help maximize the cooling for the Video Cards?
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its usually best to have a rad after the cpu yes., then have one after the gpu's to cool the water before it returns to the res.

that way you get a lot better performance!

if your gonna get the 900D then you will have plenty of rad space lol.

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Don't think of the cooling loop in terms of individual components, think of it as a whole system. The heat from the various components will spread out in the water so that the change in water temp between components is very small, but the water as a whole increases in temperature over time. The more radiator you have, the closer to ambient your water will be when your system is at load.

The only time component-to-component water temp varies noticeably is if the flow rate is too low or if you have several high-end video cards dumping heat in. At an average flow rate, having two 660s, you wouldn't need to worry about the water being more than maybe 1-3C higher after the video cards than before them (and your CPU would change the water 0-2C depending on overclock). It's usually best to run the water through your CPU first then GPUs because your CPU overclock can make use of every last 1C lower temps whereas your video cards don't really care.

Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res
This would be what I would shoot for, but it really depends on the layout you use. You'll want your tubing as short as possible and keep gravity in mind for filling, draining, and bleeding.

As far as how much radiator you can use: the more the merrier. You should shoot for putting in as much radiator as possible that will fit well and not create sandwiching (having air pass out of one rad and into another). You'll likely want to have all radiators use fresh air (intake) to maximize cooling.

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I haven't experience with most of the components you have chosen, so can provide little advice there, but only use Indigo Xtreme if you're comfortable with the reflow process (read about it). It scares me too much to risk my $600 processor, but you may be braver than I.
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its usually best to have a rad after the cpu yes., then have one after the gpu's to cool the water before it returns to the res.

that way you get a lot better performance!

if your gonna get the 900D then you will have plenty of rad space lol.

I want that case myself?
Loop order will make next to no difference in the performance. He should go for what looks best.
 
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Loop order will make next to no difference in the performance. He should go for what looks best.

what! Of course it does! heat rises no matter where it is?
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Don't think of the cooling loop in terms of individual components, think of it as a whole system. The heat from the various components will spread out in the water so that the change in water temp between components is very small, but the water as a whole increases in temperature over time. The more radiator you have, the closer to ambient your water will be when your system is at load.

The only time component-to-component water temp varies noticeably is if the flow rate is too low or if you have several high-end video cards dumping heat in. At an average flow rate, having two 660s, you wouldn't need to worry about the water being more than maybe 1-3C higher after the video cards than before them (and your CPU would change the water 0-2C depending on overclock). It's usually best to run the water through your CPU first then GPUs because your CPU overclock can make use of every last 1C lower temps whereas your video cards don't really care.

Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res
This would be what I would shoot for, but it really depends on the layout you use. You'll want your tubing as short as possible and keep gravity in mind for filling, draining, and bleeding.

As far as how much radiator you can use: the more the merrier. You should shoot for putting in as much radiator as possible that will fit well and not create sandwiching (having air pass out of one rad and into another). You'll likely want to have all radiators use fresh air (intake) to maximize cooling.

----
I haven't experience with most of the components you have chosen, so can provide little advice there, but only use Indigo Xtreme if you're comfortable with the reflow process (read about it). It scares me too much to risk my $600 processor, but you may be braver than I.

actually that config isn't the best Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res

lots of heat can build up in the res & cause acrylic to crack!

happened with a EK-Multioption res I use to have?
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what! Of course it does! heat rises no matter where it is?
actually that config isn't the best Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res

lots of heat can build up in the res & cause acrylic to crack!

happened with a EK-Multioption res I use to have?


Loop order will not matter after the flow gets set. All that matters is res -> pump.

Anyways if your going with 900D might aswell use up that rad space. You can put a 4xx something uptop (Cant remember if its 420 or 480). Can go with a 4xx up top and a 240 front or 360 bot/front.
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Don't think of the cooling loop in terms of individual components, think of it as a whole system. The heat from the various components will spread out in the water so that the change in water temp between components is very small, but the water as a whole increases in temperature over time. The more radiator you have, the closer to ambient your water will be when your system is at load.

The only time component-to-component water temp varies noticeably is if the flow rate is too low or if you have several high-end video cards dumping heat in. At an average flow rate, having two 660s, you wouldn't need to worry about the water being more than maybe 1-3C higher after the video cards than before them (and your CPU would change the water 0-2C depending on overclock). It's usually best to run the water through your CPU first then GPUs because your CPU overclock can make use of every last 1C lower temps whereas your video cards don't really care.

Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res
This would be what I would shoot for, but it really depends on the layout you use. You'll want your tubing as short as possible and keep gravity in mind for filling, draining, and bleeding.

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I haven't experience with most of the components you have chosen, so can provide little advice there, but only use Indigo Xtreme if you're comfortable with the reflow process (read about it). It scares me too much to risk my $600 processor, but you may be braver than I.

well that config of rads isn't the best ive seen>Res -> Pump -> Rad -> Rad -> CPU -> (GPU / GPU) -> Res, heat in the res building up can cause acrylic to crack? happened to a EK-Multioption res I had.

also having the pump after the res the way you would have it would cause the pump to run hotter than it would need to, reducing its life effectively!
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Loop order will make next to no difference in the performance. He should go for what looks best.

what? of course it does! heat rises no matter where it is? even if its flowing, it has a habit of dissipating to the nearest conducter!

hmm I thought watercooling is about performance!
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