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post #21 of 42
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Lol wat? Thats a 2011 socket motherboard for a Sandy Bridge-E CPU, so it's not gonna work


It will work just fine with this processor.


Intel i7 3930K

1155 socket is old news and fading fast.

I'm suggesting he look at the X79 chipset in lieu of the Z77
2011 socket instead of 1155 socket.
Edited by coachrex - 6/8/13 at 7:10pm
post #22 of 42
Yeah except 2011 socket CPUs are dramatically more expensive, and its his first build. Also with the rate they release new sockets, every Intel socket is old news lol
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post #23 of 42
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Yikes. This is where I'm getting confused. I read that boards like the asus mvf are great but not noob friendly. I learn fast but don't want to mess up an entire system or not be able to set it up cuz I don't understand a lot... yet. Do I stay w/free 2600k and get a Sabertooth z77 or sell that chip, get the 3770k at Microcenter for $249 and the Asus MVF and try to figure it out? And of course try not to overannoy OCN with threads, posts and pms -- sorry Rat and Stro0nz!

I don't have a graphics card, and I will want to upgrade to 1440 in near future, so that means a 780 gtx, and MSI has 3 gig versions.

I know socket 1155 is over... but I'd like a top tier system that will stay in the top tier for 3 years or so. I don't think I'd use the SB-E since I won't be using the extra cores.

If people can help me cut through all this noise I'll be extremely grateful smile.gif
Edited by BusterJRT - 6/8/13 at 10:19pm
post #24 of 42
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Yikes. This is where I'm getting confused. I read that boards like the asus mvf are great but not noob friendly. I learn fast but don't want to mess up an entire system or not be able to set it up cuz I don't understand a lot... yet. Do I stay w/free 2600k and get a Sabertooth z77 or sell that chip, get the 3770k at Microcenter for $249 and the Asus MVF and try to figure it out? And of course try not to overannoy OCN with threads, posts and pms -- sorry Rat and Stro0nz!

I don't have a graphics card, and I will want to upgrade to 1440 in near future, so that means a 780 gtx, and MSI has 3 gig versions.

I know socket 1155 is over... but I'd like a top tier system that will stay in the top tier for 3 years or so. I don't think I'd use the SB-E since I won't be using the extra cores.

If people can help me cut through all this noise I'll be extremely grateful smile.gif
Any of the processors you mentioned should not bottleneck your gaming for the next 3 years, so you should not worry too much about that. If you are primarily interested in gaming, put your money and focus into the video card. With the onset of 4k, I'm afraid the GTX 780 or the GTX 770 (A rebranded k104 keplar, GTX 680) will possibly not get you through 3 years at that resolution with ultra settings. Again, the processor should last you through a video card change in 1.5 years from now, but you may be looking at needing a new video card 1.5 years from now in order to play the latest games at 1440.

Honestly, it is my opinion that you should wait a few more weeks and get a 3GB or 4GB GTX 780 ( 4GB should be out soon according to pcperspective), grab the haswell 4770K, grab the motherboard that you like the most, and have fun. I do think that you will be okay with the ASUS. They have a learning curve, but so do most boards. I can tell that you are going to want to know exactly how everything in the bios functions anyway, so don't be too concerned about the difficulty. There are a lot of people here to help you.
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I've been giving you bang for buck advice via PM but if you can afford it do what sbdblyss is suggesting, pretty much fool-proof.
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post #26 of 42
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Thanks blyss! Newegg has 3 gb 780 gtx by MSI right now. Your info is very helpful. Gotta dive into a complex motherboard and learn it. You think Haswell over IB? Or IB 3770k will work too?

+ rep blyss, rat
post #27 of 42
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Thanks blyss! Newegg has 3 gb 780 gtx by MSI right now. Your info is very helpful. Gotta dive into a complex motherboard and learn it. You think Haswell over IB? Or IB 3770k will work too?

+ rep blyss, rat
If I were buying now, I would buy Haswell because I love having the latest tech. With that being said, I currently own the 3770K and love it. If I can keep myself from upgrading for the next 3 years, it should serve me well and it should not bottleneck future graphics cards with respect to that timeframe.

So basically, either would be fine for your plan. Again, your video card will likely need an upgrade in 1.5 to 2 years, but the 3770K and the 4770K will not. All of this is speculation. As the market trend for computer components has remained very steady and the style of components has not made a drastic change in many years, I don't see my statements being too crazy. It is hard to say though. 2 years from now we may be relying on a GPU/CPU combo for amazing performance. It is really impossible to tell, but I would not tell you that you are relatively safe going with the 3770K or 4770K if I did not believe that these processors will last you the 3 years you would like them to. The video card may not. Even the Nvidia Titan may not last you 3 years with ultra setting, but those processors will. If you want the most help from people on this forum, go with Haswell. People will be more focused on it compared to the Ivy Bridge lineup. But, if you get an amazing deal on an Ivy Bridge, you should probably put the extra money into your video card or memory. I'd you find any deals, post them here and we will help you decide. Which way are you leaning? Do you have a motherboard that you are leaning towards?
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Check out this thread. Interesting information on Haswell's overclocking potential. It doesn't loom amazing to me, but maybe too early?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1397356/haswell-adopters-hows-the-overclocking-coming-along

Page 3 has some interesting voltage information. Seems to me that the haswell is fairly limited as to how much voltage it can handle. We may not see amazing overclocks on water / closed loop systems from haswell. I think they still perform a little better than Ivy, but it is still early for Haswell.
post #29 of 42
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I'm looking at Microcenter. The price difference between the 3770k and 4770k is small and both chips are offered at a steep discount. I know the gpu won't last three years. I'm looking for the processor that will last the longest and also will have/maintain the strongest user interest and traction.

I'd be using the Kraken x60 or H100i to cool my cpu or a better cooler if someone has suggestions.

Which setup, then, would be best for me? Community interest is critically important to me because I need the resources, knowledge and advice of so many incredibly informed and knowledgeable people.

Thank you!
post #30 of 42
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I'm looking at Microcenter. The price difference between the 3770k and 4770k is small and both chips are offered at a steep discount. I know the gpu won't last three years. I'm looking for the processor that will last the longest and also will have/maintain the strongest user interest and traction.

I'd be using the Kraken x60 or H100i to cool my cpu or a better cooler if someone has suggestions.

Which setup, then, would be best for me? Community interest is critically important to me because I need the resources, knowledge and advice of so many incredibly informed and knowledgeable people.

Thank you!
I think that community interest will be equal, BUT the Z87 motherboards look to be nicer than the Z77 motherboards. The differences are minimal, but I think that Haswell is your solution.

The Kraken X60 is great! I would either go with the Kraken or a custom loop. I love corsair, but in this case, the Kraken has the edge. Of course, I don't have either of these coolers, but here is one review, among a few others, that I based my decision on. Plus, I trust anandtech.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6530/closing-the-loop-contained-liquidcoolers-from-corsair-and-nzxt-compared/5
Edited by sbdblyss - 6/9/13 at 9:57am
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