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My Grandad loves gaming (he's 63 and still rocking it). He loves his Xbox 360 and has at least 50 games. He uses a 3G dongle for his internet on a laptop as he only lives in a small flat.

How did Microsoft come to the conclusion that "every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection"? What if my Grandad wanted to buy an Xbox One?

What an absolute joke.
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a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games

Does this mean that me, in Australia, will be able to share games with my brother in England? I'd assume it'd be region locked but that would be awesome.
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you actually cant borrow a game at all
you have to gift the entire game, and it can only be gifted once, so your friend can never give it back to you

It's worth noting that Microsoft allows you to gift games to friends but they can't borrow them. Microsoft added that "loaning or renting games won’t be available at launch, but we are exploring the possibilities with our partners."


just for those that saw your comment but didn't read the article
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You're creating headaches MS.
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it would be unfair as a steam gamer to complain about always online. But the fact is ( clearly WAS) that a lot of console gamers played on consoles for a solitary single player experience and had no need for online , secondly a lot of people bought consoles because the games were trade-able and you could go to a store and pick them up for a few dollars/yen/pounds etc..

what this does is cut out the lower order in poorer countries / demographics in order to fill the pockets of those who are assumed to have more.. which again.. steam kind of does this.. but there in lies the EXACT point. IF You bought a $2000 PC you also had an Internet connection guaranteed but could still play offline, you (USED to buy) a console for $300 and job done + cheap used games and trades, because the PC was too much.

Now a PC can be bought to play games for $600 and the games are cheaper and not always online (you at least have a good choice still outside of steam).. this forces that area of the market to reconsider their next purchase from being an xboxone to becoming either a gaming PC or a WiiU

Win, Win
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Originally Posted by jNSK View Post

My Grandad loves gaming (he's 63 and still rocking it). He loves his Xbox 360 and has at least 50 games. He uses a 3G dongle for his internet on a laptop as he only lives in a small flat.

How did Microsoft come to the conclusion that "every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection"? What if my Grandad wanted to buy an Xbox One?

What an absolute joke.
Does this mean that me, in Australia, will be able to share games with my brother in England? I'd assume it'd be region locked but that would be awesome.

he can watch TV tongue.gif

but seriously, good question. Microsoft is creating a new standard that developers can create games around. Almost like that issue with 360 where some had hard drives and some didn't.....
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it would be unfair as a steam gamer to complain about always online. But the fact is ( clearly WAS) that a lot of console gamers played on consoles for a solitary single player experience and had no need for online , secondly a lot of people bought consoles because the games were trade-able and you could go to a store and pick them up for a few dollars/yen/pounds etc..

what this does is cut out the lower order in poorer countries / demographics in order to fill the pockets of those who are assumed to have more.. which again.. steam kind of does this.. but there in lies the EXACT point. IF You bought a $2000 PC you also had an Internet connection guaranteed but could still play offline, you (USED to buy) a console for $300 and job done + cheap used games and trades, because the PC was too much.

Now a PC can be bought to play games for $600 and the games are cheaper and not always online (you at least have a good choice still outside of steam).. this forces that area of the market to reconsider their next purchase from being an xboxone to becoming either a gaming PC or a WiiU

Win, Win

must remember that the Xbox One isn't just for high schoolers any more. There will probably be commercials targeting football dads, college guys, grannies, children, and gamers. Just like a PC. How do you really market a PC? So broad
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30 million users currently have Xbox Live. Those who have access to broadband will only grow over the years. People complaining about broadband......welcome to 2003 -_____-

I realize that this day and age a large chunk of the population has broadband access, i should have been a little clearer... how many of those people rely on others with access or to provide that access for them (kids)? theres so many other factors that come into always online situations that it's ridiculous I know of a few people that can't get connections for reasons that don't need to be explained so they rely on the people that they live with, while said people probably should be worrying about other priorities that's neither here nor there, i think it just irks me seeing the direction they take with consoles now after growing up with atari, mega drives and nes but whatever I got a ps3 so ill be buying a ps4.
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M$ is not a fool and they know that this blight they consider sharing won't be around much for anyone to use as they will encourage the Devs (who will only be too eager) to put some gaming features on the M$ cloud. This way the game sharing/second hand market disappears and they can justify always online at the same time. They have announced games that will be doing that already.

So what little bone they seem to be throwing your way now is misleading.
 
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the main thing you will want to take away from this imo is Microsoft saying that they will "enable" publishers to allow you to even be able to trade your game in or loan to a friend. I think the wording in that article from microsoft is very interesting.

In the same way MS will not be "enforcing" always on requirements they are "enabling" others to allow you to trade or loan. That way they can sit back and say "hey it's not our fault"
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must remember that the Xbox One isn't just for high schoolers any more. There will probably be commercials targeting football dads, college guys, grannies, children, and gamers. Just like a PC. How do you really market a PC? So broad

you cant, the PC is niche until a merging system comes out or a market influence pushes a demographic away from consoles
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