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Poll Results: Which Z87 board should I pick??

 
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    Gigabyte G1.Sniper5
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    Gigabyte Z87-UD5H
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    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
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    ASUS Z87-Deluxe
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    Other Z87 (ASRock, MSI..etc..)
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post #1 of 9
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So I am on the fence. I am looking to upgrade from a Nehalem i7 860, and a P55 Gigabyte chipset board. Now I am looking at upgrading to the new LGA 1150. I think it is high time for me to be upgrading.

The main issue I am probably going to sway my motivation to buy one or the other is the Linux support. I mainly run Linux only.

The Gigabyte G1.Sniper 5: Mostly worried about the Killer Bigfoot E2201. It has a Intel i271V to fall back on. Also, wondering if the on-board OP-AMP socket will be hindered by my Linux usage.

The Gigabyte Z87-UD5H: Seems to work with Linux right out of the box. thumb.gif

The ASUS Z87-Deluxe Dual: Seems to be okay, except the 802.11ac chip and NFC. Also, the ROG digital display that interfaces with this board might not have support.

The ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula: From what I have seen might have an issue with the sound card used, and the OC digitial display that might cause problems..

Another thing did notice the actual Creative Sound card used in the boards has okay support with Linux.

Another issue is I have never been done wrong by any of the boards I bought from Gigabyte. However, I did try out a ASUS board a couple years back and had huge issues with it and was unable to have a successful RMA.. I was wondering if ASUS has been getting any better with QC, because last I checked Gigabyte was on top for quality control and less RMA's than most other companies? Also, what board would be best in my interest to invest in as a gamer, developer, and Linux power user.

So really I mean it seems like a gamble and that I might have to be forced back to using Windows. A lot of the nice tools on the ASUS Deluxe I probably won't be able to use, the Maximus VI Formula will remain TBD until they get a release date and detailed spec information, the G1.Sniper 5 will have to figure out if the OP-AMP is worth getting invested into this board...

Seems like a lot to decide on.. So I have made a poll please let me know what you think.. grouphug.gif

I am going to pair one of these boards with a i7-4770K, and a Gigabyte 560ti OC, and Dominator Platinum 2x8GB 2400MHZ....
Edited by adramalech707 - 6/6/13 at 5:08pm
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Don't get G1 unless you actually need 4-way SLI. It's imo way overpriced compared to very well priced Z77 variant.

You didn't really list what you actually need from the board except Linux support. If you don't care about extra features and just want stable OC, get Z87-GD65, GA-Z87X-UD3H, or Z87-Pro.

Otherwise, UD5H offers complete fan control over UD3H, and the rest is about the same.

Asus still has issues with RMA, but there weren't any threads about it lately (except one guy who send a board with burned mosfet which most of the time don't get approved anyway).
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Don't get G1 unless you actually need 4-way SLI. It's imo way overpriced compared to very well priced Z77 variant.

You didn't really list what you actually need from the board except Linux support. If you don't care about extra features and just want stable OC, get Z87-GD65, GA-Z87X-UD3H, or Z87-Pro.

Otherwise, UD5H offers complete fan control over UD3H, and the rest is about the same.

Asus still has issues with RMA, but there weren't any threads about it lately (except one guy who send a board with burned mosfet which most of the time don't get approved anyway).

thanks for the information... Yea I saw that post about that guy with ASUS and re-emerged my fears of buying into ASUS.. The ASUS Z87-Deluxe seemed really nice... I might actually still take the plunge for the Deluxe, because it has BT 3.0 +HT, BT 4.0, Wifi 802.11ac, and NFC... Might get into develop and Android application that uses NFC... However, I am worried about the OC potential of the Deluxe vs. the UD5H. The UD5H I like because of the fan control support...

The main thing I do is development, and with my new job probably won't have a lot of time to do much besides working on code... and maybe the occasional weekend I end up sucked into the void of 24/7 Eve Online lol... I also do like to do overclocking and like the G1 or the OC and the Maximus VI for the potential for good water cooling support... I might be picking up the new Swiftech h220 if they support LGA 1150 socket..

I also mostly game through Wine and Steam Native Linux...

BTW how is the Gigabyte Z87-OC board...???
Edited by adramalech707 - 6/6/13 at 4:31pm
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Yea NFC is cool. I always wanted to unlock my PC using my phone lol, and Asus stole my idea.

Deluxe should OC the same as UD5H, and Asus has proper fan support for years, so I don't see why it would be worse than UD5H.

The price on Deluxe is OK I guess if you REALLY need those features. AC adapter costs about $50-100 alone. It doesn't include NFC though. NFC comes with Deluxe Dual.

LGA1150/1155/1156 have the same cooler mounting holes, so H220 will works just fine.

All GB boards are very similar. OC is just marketed towards a bencher that OCs a lot. So it has overclocker specific features like multiplier buttons, and etc. Also inside mounted USB ports.

If you're a type of person who OCs once, then just get a UD board imo for more features for the same money.
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I just saw that about the Deluxe Dual with Thunderbolt... I wonder when that will be released??? wink.gif

The Deluxe I saw on Newegg already has a bad report... I also don't mind the 802.11ac adapter prices... because I have been needing an excuse to upgrade my Router to the Netgear 6300 from my POS DLink dir-655..

So I think it is a matter of me waiting a couple more days maybe weeks before I get a full list of upgrade stuff up and running...

I am going to have to research my build with the Swiftech H220, so I can figure out all the best optimizations to get me back into water cooling..
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only the Sniper 5 has the core3D chip on there unless someone knows something I don't. Most of the new boards with upgraded audio are just using the ALC1150(ALC900)(actually I see it on a lot of boards), and have covers on them so users just wonder or assume(id like to see someone remove the MSI one since it has screws), I am pretty sure that the Maixmus 5 Formula(which I am pretty sure isn't releasing now) uses something else, either realtek or maybe core3d but from what I know they tend not use creative. I did a google search and it does seem there is some okay Linux support for it. As far as the OP-AMP feature goes, it has nothing to do with software, it is purely hardware on the analog side of things and it IMO does make a difference when compared to other built in AMPs. The SNiper 5 and M5 have the proper hardware on there to power the AMPs correctly. RMAA really doesn't seem to like Core3D unless you totally disable all software, but when i tested it i was getting in the 150+ dBs with the included OP-AMP, and you can hear a difference between the AMPs, so I guess it is for users who like addictive things like that or might want to dabble with audio.

IMO i really like the Sniper 5, one heck of a motherboard, also the LEDs on the back, GIGABYTE uses a lot of them and it makes them brighter but also will illuminate the entire back of the board green when in a dark case or at night. You can turn off the LEDs through the UEFI, which I am sure other manufacturers will have too.

ONly thing I don't like is the price of the SNiper 5, I think it is very expensive, I am sure they are giving you many more features than the original when it comes to the hardware compared to last round, but $400 make it one of the most expensive Z87 boards.


IDK if you can afford the Sniper 5, IMO i was very impressed by it especially in person, however unless you need multi-GPU support then you can settle for the Sniper M5 or another board, as there is little point to get the Sniper 5 unless you want full PLX chip support or you want a full ATX SNiper series.
    
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Yea I am thinking I am going to be leaning towards a Gigabyte G1.Sniper5, and H220 kit, and maybe two gigabyte 770 windforce x3 OC. I am right now okay with my gigabyte 560ti OC however I need to wait awhile on that... I am more worried about getting the h220 with the sniper 5 and not setting up my loop correctly.

i am thinking a second rad 1x120mm would be overkill to do a cpu socket and a mobo, but I will need to research if I might just not get the ROG 770 I saw... which I will need a second Rad..
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you mean you want to use the h220 and add the watercooling for the VRM in your loop? IMO just don't worry that much about it, if it doesn't work then take out the heatpipe/watercooling. I mean this is what it looks like when i took the heatsink apart:

considering its the same vendor that makes this and the one for the formulas then id say what we all already know, you don't need to cool a motherboard's VRM. If the motherboard is at the caliber where it can come with a watercooled VRM, then you don't need to cool its VRM b/c its cost is high enough that one shouldn't need to see crap VRMs on there. the Sniper 5 uses IR3550, nothing can compete with IR3550 when it comes to power stages, but directfet and nexfet are competitors with ir3550 when used in certain configurations.
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you mean you want to use the h220 and add the watercooling for the VRM in your loop? IMO just don't worry that much about it, if it doesn't work then take out the heatpipe/watercooling. I mean this is what it looks like when i took the heatsink apart:

considering its the same vendor that makes this and the one for the formulas then id say what we all already know, you don't need to cool a motherboard's VRM. If the motherboard is at the caliber where it can come with a watercooled VRM, then you don't need to cool its VRM b/c its cost is high enough that one shouldn't need to see crap VRMs on there. the Sniper 5 uses IR3550, nothing can compete with IR3550 when it comes to power stages, but directfet and nexfet are competitors with ir3550 when used in certain configurations.

Awesome thanks for the info Rep + 1...

Was wondering about the hybrid VRM heat sinks used. I have one question... what are the dimensions of the fan used and can it be replaced with say a led fan, or a better one?

I was thinking about sticking this upgrade setup into my Antec Lanboy Air, but I am missing hardware for more fans... and for some reason can't figure out how to get a hold of more mounting hardware for Antec LED Blue Tricolor 120mm fans 3-speed. I have 9 work right now, want to get 15 working... and two 140mm pushing into the case from where a 240/360 rad would go... Also, need to research if I can put fans on top of the h220, and then have two sets of fans underneath all in pull configuration... So I am working out all the details... will have to update my post once I figure all my stuff out... biggrin.gif

One other thing was I heard the Sniper5 ATX board was more of a XL ATX board and might not fit in my case, or be a seriously tight fit...mad.gif

**EDIT**

Here is the Gigabyte part list I compiled for a Sniper5 setup... list.

Here is the ASUS part list I compiled for a Deluxe/Dual setup... list.
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