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Upgrade to new Haswell I7k or keep I7 2600k?

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I've been having trouble deciding on what to do to update my computer.

First Let me tell you what I do have!

Case: COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 Ghz 8 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

CPU Cooler: CORSAIR Hydro series H50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010

Motherboar: ASUS P8P67 PRO LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131682

Ram: CORSAIR DOMINATOR GT 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233183

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX470 Superclocked 1280 MB DDR5 PCI-Express 2.0
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003EEMFUC/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Disk Drive: LG Internal Blu-Ray Disc Rewriter BH10LS30
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003GJ581S

Power Suply: Silverstone Strider Plus 850W SST-ST85F-P 80PLUS Silver
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256058

Hard Drives: Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT/RF2 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233472&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-Internal+SSD-_-N82E16820233472&gclid=COzg9MPH0LcCFWYV7AodrwQAcg

---WD Blue 1 TB Desktop Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, 7200 RPM, SATA III, 32 MB Cache - WD10EALX
---http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00461LT6S/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Monitor: LG D2342P-PN 23-Inch Widescreen Passive 3D LED LCD Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004WK3R4U/ref=oh_details_o08_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Now my problems


What do I do with my computer: First and foremost I game. Online, rpg, fps, pretty much all types. I also do autocad and photoshop heavy work. Some video editing and rendering. I have 2 monitors but I only game on just the one. I can't stand multiple monitor gaming idk why. I use the second monitor for web and referencing. I thinking of upgrading one of them to a 1440p+. Also I would like to water cool my components someday. I like building computer and I have never water cooled. I know my case isn't the right one for that so I was thinking of a corsair 800D, 900D, switch 810, or something close.

BUDGET $2,000 (lower the better)

I Need to upgrade my motherboard because the one i have now is a little buggy and I need thunderport for work...so what a great excuse to get a new one right?? I was thinking of buying an asus maximus V formula for around or a little below $200. But this is where my problems begin. I know that Asus just announced the new VI series boards and they have a new formula and hero....I would be fine withe the hero. The think i like about the board is the oc'ing ability, thunderport, soundcard built in, and built in wifi/bluetooth (802.11ac on VI series). I live in Kansas City and have google fiber so the Ac wireless is very very tempting. (yes I know hard connection is better but I like the feature). Any advice here would be great! Also if I do get the new VI series I will need the 1150 socket. I would prefer the new I7 for the hyper-threading but is it worth it?

Next is the graphic card choice I want to play every game at ultra quality at 30+fps. I don't really like AA it feels unnatural so I keep it to a minimum. I do ALOT of adobe work so I would prefer nvidia (cudda cores?) BUT I was offered 2 HD 7970 for 300 a piece and some free games; I do like free smile.gif. But I am worried about the micro stuttering of crossfire. I've never experienced it before but I have been warned about it a MILLION times. So its amd or....I was considering a gtx 770 4gig version. And I want the 4gig because the multiple monitors and I may later update the second monitor to 1440p so I'd like the extra VM for future proofing (maybe sli later if I need extra power later). I also was thinking of a 780 because it is very close to the titan. But also consider I want to water cool later in the future. next is that I could wait for the 760ti version to come out and save some $$$. If anyone has any other ideas lemme know!!

SO....
2x HD 7970 for ~ $600
GTX 770 4gig ~$370-450 (possible later sli)
GTX 760ti ~ $299-??? (possible later sli)
or Different ideas.

I would water cool the cpu right off the bat with custom w/am cooler.


ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
post #2 of 8
The performance is way too close between sandy k and haswell k series. The gains would not be worth the cost.

You would benefit from a 6 core cpu for the intensive tasks, look into the Sandy-Bridge-E series such as the 3930k and beyond however, it's pricey and if you're looking into a new case, custom loop and a GTX780 you'll probably be over your budget.

The 2600k is still a great cpu, I still use mine and I'm happy with it however, I'd love to get my hands on a 3930k.

I think your best option is to overclock that 2600k some more and wait until IB-E before you make a decision.
post #3 of 8
I did not read all the thing, but just to give a feedback on my cpu (i7-2700K, which is nearly the same thing as your 2600L).

If you do not have a really bad chip, i would just OC it to 4.5 Ghz or so, and wait until one or two intel generations, to upgrade. The haswel, yes it consumes less, but, it is not overclocking that good, with more heat generated than our Sandy bridge. I do not see clear + to upgrade to it. Your cpu (2600k) will run nearly as fast, (oc'd), and will heat less.

My i7-2700K is doing 4.7 Ghz @ 1.35 v. I really do not feel the need to upgrade to a proc that oc less and heat more.. I would suggest you to just OC it, and put the money on another piece of hardware.

my 2 ¢ smile.gif

cya

edit :

I just saw your MB was buggy.. but buggey at what point? Can you still OC to 4, 4.5 Ghz with a correct voltage ? ( < 1.4v) . It the board is doing some bluescreen and that kind of stuff, that is another story tho..

For the video card, i would take the GTX 770, and buy another one in a couple of years !

On my side, i have a Evga GTX FTW 670 4GB(bought last year), and i am bumping BF3 ultra max @ 1440p @ 80 or so FPS, or a full stable 60 fps with Vsync. Playing Path Of exile (still maxed) @ 1440p @ 100fps (full stable 60 fps with vsync). In crysis 3, i really cannot maxout everything, but overall, i feel my GTX 670 can give me power for still one year at least.. depending of the games ! Then i can buy another GTX 670..

I am sure that the GTX 770 have a good life ahead !

Last thing, if you are going to SLI , i would REALLY suggest Blower type fan on it (like the FTW version on my GTX 670). There are standard models of 770 with blower on it, i think (on the Evga models). In sli, it tends to heat less than the big eyecandy tri-fans (like the asus models).


Still, everything i said is my opinion and not facts...

That was my 2¢ of the day biggrin.gif

edit 2 : i just saw the exact model of the Mb you have.. a P67,, yeah, it kind of sucks ! Maybe you can just but a Z68 board for near 100$, that will oc more and be more stable !
Edited by Jamar2013 - 6/7/13 at 7:09am
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Intel Core i7 2700K Intel Extreme Series Desktop Board DZ68BC  EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4GB Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7 2700K Intel Extreme Series Desktop Board DZ68BC  EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4GB Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB Intel SSD 520 Series Cherryville Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
MoDisc DVD Rom Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler 120mm Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition (r... 120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (bottom in... 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (top exhau... Microsoft Windows 7 Professional OEM 64-bit French Acer S230HL 23inch monitor Acer X203W 20inch monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse II keyboard Cooler Master GX 750 PSU Corsair Carbide 500R Black Case Razer DeathAdder Mouse 
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I'm trying to decide similar with my 2500k.
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If you can get yourself in the 4 Ghz, i say it worths keeping it ! Enough for gaming etc.

And your avatar.. mine is a scaled shot from that picture ! hehe Nvidia ftw.
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Intel Core i7 2700K Intel Extreme Series Desktop Board DZ68BC  EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4GB Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB Intel SSD 520 Series Cherryville Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
MoDisc DVD Rom Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler 120mm Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition (r... 120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (bottom in... 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (top exhau... Microsoft Windows 7 Professional OEM 64-bit French Acer S230HL 23inch monitor Acer X203W 20inch monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse II keyboard Cooler Master GX 750 PSU Corsair Carbide 500R Black Case Razer DeathAdder Mouse 
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Diablo 3 Witch Doctor Mousepad Harman Kardon Champagne Black audio DEMCi Flex Fan Filters 
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Intel Core i7 2700K Intel Extreme Series Desktop Board DZ68BC  EVGA GTX 670 FTW 4GB Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Kingston Hyperx Blu 8GB Intel SSD 520 Series Cherryville Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB Western Digital Caviar Green 2 TB 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
MoDisc DVD Rom Phanteks PH-TC14PE CPU Cooler 120mm Corsair Air Series AF140 Quiet Edition (r... 120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (bottom in... 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
120mm Noiseblocker Multiframe M12-PS (top exhau... Microsoft Windows 7 Professional OEM 64-bit French Acer S230HL 23inch monitor Acer X203W 20inch monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Saitek Eclipse II keyboard Cooler Master GX 750 PSU Corsair Carbide 500R Black Case Razer DeathAdder Mouse 
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post #6 of 8
i would say upgrade your current mobo and grab a new gfx card. thats probably your best option. like a couple members stated before it is not worth the performance gain per value.
post #7 of 8
A 2600K is still a very capable processor. With a nice mild overclock it can be even better, so with that being said I would put my money somewhere else and keep your current CPU. thumb.gif
 
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post #8 of 8
The only thing holding you back is the dated P67 motherboard, H50 cooling, and your video card. Grab a Z77 motherboard, at least an H80i, and a GTX 770. With those upgrades you will be able to further your clocks on your 2600k to at least 4.7GHz maybe even higher, and of course benefit greatly with FPS increases from the GTX 770. Will be a world of difference. thumb.gif

Would not upgrade to Haswell, when all you need to do is a few minor upgrades that will make your computer feel a lot better.
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