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And ofc Microsoft is not using kinect to look at you - they dont need to when goverment agencies are doing it.

Next in news will be probably how Xbox One refuses to work if you put duct tape on kinect cameras.
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Nope, not going to say it. What I would say is political, but suffice it to say "I told you so".
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Nope, not going to say it. What I would say is political, but suffice it to say "I told you so".

Agreed, that is why I am very careful about what I put online, as you never know who is collecting that information. I refuse to use Facebook or any other type of popular social media for personal use as that is just handing information over without even trying.
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Like I mentioned in another thread, even though the government has access to pretty much all of our information it doesn't mean that they'll use their resources to check up on every single one of us. I really don't consider this a big issue because I like to think I see the bigger picture when it comes to the security of our nation. I always ask people this when the subject of privacy comes up. What the hell are you involved in that would make the Federal Government give your information a second glance? I'm starting to think a lot of people just have a sense of entitlement >.> I value my privacy as much as the next person, the only difference is, I understand how the process works, educate yourselves.


/rant

You are part of the problem.

Yet another person who believes the only reason you could ever want privacy. Is because you are a criminal, or sexual deviant. You need to educate yourself. The basic human right to privacy is a very complicated subject, that cannot merely be defined by its dictionary interpretation.

I suggest you start here.
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/
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I hate to see what some of you are like if/when you get a job that requires any level of security clearance. Those checks are always fun but serve a purpose.

The difference is. You have a choice whether to go through that process or not.
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You are part of the problem.

Yet another person who believes the only reason you could ever want privacy. Is because you are a criminal, or sexual deviant. You need to educate yourself. The basic human right to privacy is a very complicated subject, that cannot merely be defined by its dictionary interpretation.

I suggest you start here.
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/
The difference is. You have a choice whether to go through that process or not.



No, Sorry, I've commented on NSA threads before because I happen to know more about the NSA than most lay(wo)men.


Here are the facts.

#1. They've been collecting this kind of data for almost 60 years.

#2 Their data collection and investigations of such data are strictly related to national security. Domestic crimes outside of terrorism (including murder, armed robbery, and child pornography [YES REALLY] aren't even glanced at a second time)

#3 We now have the technology and individuals with the capability to create weapons that can kill millions up to hundreds of millions of people with very little effort. Remember, we have CHILDREN (high schoolers at least 6 confirmed in the United States) building nuclear reactors in their houses. We have microbiologists engineering viruses and bacteria in pretty low tech labs by today's standards.



You people need to wake up. I am as libertarian as people come. HOWEVER, when an individual has the capability on her/his own to destroy the entire species. I have to think that I do prefer security over liberty. This is about preserving the species at this point. Your privacy is not a fundamental right if we're all dead because we valued privacy over the continuation of the human race. It's that serious.

here is my last post about a NSA related topic.
 
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To quote Johnny Cash "Man in Black"
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Well were doing mighty fine i do suppose, in our streak of lightning cars(PC's) and fancy clothes (SSD'S), but just so were reminded of the ones who are held back, in front there should be a man in black.

If people have access to material goods they tend to ignore the bad stuff, my main fear is that if it becomes standard practice in the US other countries will follow. For those that watch the british show "QI" it had an interesting point in one of its episodes, the most peaceful times in human history have been when people are equal and the divide between rich and poor is low. Unfortunately we don't learn from history.
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You still have privacy, don't connect to any form of technology. Connecting via technology surrenders your right to privacy.

Any criminal will tell you to be careful on the phone or on the Internet, but ordinary citizens seem to think their info can be protected by some law.
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You still have privacy, don't connect to any form of technology. Connecting via technology surrenders you right to privacy.

Any criminal will tell you to be careful on the phone or on the Internet, but ordinary citizens seem to think their info can be protected by some law.
in 1990 i got a home walkie talkie as gift, and i tuned in and some guy was talking to other guy over ancient mobile phone quoting "i am calling you over phone so nobody can listen to us". i was a 10yo kid then, with having my first walkie talkie tongue.gif

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There was a recent thread about telecomm info seizures from verision, my answer to that is the same as to this


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Good ol' Murica playing God again...
   
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