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there was a whistle blower interviewed on domocracy now, Bindie i think his name was, what they are doing is recording ALL interent traffic flow and storing it, so many terrabites a second, they then can mine the data with any search terms. real time monitoring is impossable for such large data. he became a whislt blower because he saw the issues with civil rights and the data being used other then the sole purpose.

I wonder who they got the good search code from
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post #32 of 81
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Ding, ding, ding ... we have a winner.

60 years ago, there wasn't an internet, there wasn't email, the only thing they could do is listen in on your telephone conversations and snail mail.

Not now. This goes WELL BEYOND that with email, FB, electronic banking, and a whole host of other things.

And more to the point, 60 years ago, you couldn't easily "cast a net" and catch EVERYONE. Not so with this NEW aspect of abuse.

That is what Darkpriest667 and others are missing here with this NEW PROGRAM as opposed to the old ones.

They also seem to think that, just because it has been going on so long. It makes it alright. Like if I was to poke you with a stick everyday, that would be totally uncool. But if I kept it up for 60 years, then that is somehow acceptable.
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The USA's top spy James Clapper said the stories contained "numerous inaccuracies," but he did not offer any details.

And he said the law that allowed US government agencies to collect communications from internet companies only permitted the targeting of "non-US persons" outside the United States.
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Sickning that some evil unsupervised goverment workers will have access to this.
they get paid good money and are "just doing their job". If they don't, they'll get fired and someone else will do it. They gotta "feed their families"...
    
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They also seem to think that, just because it has been going on so long. It makes it alright. Like if I was to poke you with a stick everyday, that would be totally uncool. But if I kept it up for 60 years, then that is somehow acceptable.

True dat!
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I understand the purpose of data-mining, but this goes a little bit too far no? It's almost as if the US is making up enemies in order to do these things. I'm fully aware terrible things go bump in the night, but the same "National Security" excuse is the reason the hellhole of a prison we all know is still open, the NDAA with that amendment was signed, and the Patriot Act extended. I''m for my national security, but you don't get to bless me with privacy, take some of it back, and expect me to be ok with that.

Edit: I would love a political section, because about politics is ill and I learn about a lot of other stuff I didn't before, but there's several times on OCN where people would get caught up in their feelings and start insulting the other person on topics less severe than politics, just for having a different opinion.
Edited by Athrun Zala - 6/7/13 at 8:23am
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I am pretty sure we agree to being spied on the minute we start using any service or program. I am getting tired with these 'terms and agreements' that these so called government pretend to be companies have.
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And in case anyone hasn't already figured it (via other sources or other documentation)...

This data collection goes into a big 'pot'... figuratively speaking... and the information is kept indefinitely. It is not sorted or categorized outside of major categorical boundaries like region, city, etc.

Once a name (or identifier) is attached to something (terrorism, treason, DOJ inquiry, ATF/FBI/CIA, etc...) then the data is sourced to that name. Then the data is sifted through to find any and all relevant data associated with that name, or other identifier.

It's quite an intensive sweep of data being collected, much more than is being reported on.
    
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This is why we can't have nice things...sad-smiley-002.gif
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This is why we can't have nice things...sad-smiley-002.gif

This.
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